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Recording Fever !
Gabriel Leopardi
Feb 12 2012, 12:29 AM
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"Recording Fever" is the only type of fever that can be healed with practice and experience! smile.gif However unless you have born without it you will keep some symptoms for many time.. or maybe forever... That's my experience, nowadays I feel much more comfortable when I'm recording but in my beginnings it was very difficult to play perfect when the REC button was turned on.
That's why the REC program is also very effective! Nowadays I make my private students learn one song every 2/3 months and we record/film to let them have the experience of being at the studio.

Check out some videos... smile.gif



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Cosmin Lupu
Feb 12 2012, 08:25 AM
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Great idea man! biggrin.gif I'll have a go at that one as well with my students in Romania smile.gif

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 11 2012, 10:26 PM) *
Well, I got to act like a sailor and curse of course


Yo Ho Ho and a bottle of rum !! smile.gif

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Gabriel Leopardi
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 12 2012, 04:25 AM) *
Great idea man! biggrin.gif I'll have a go at that one as well with my students in Romania smile.gif


I'm having really good result with this idea because the feel more motivated to work on technique and to study theory in order to be able to paly the songs and to understand how these ones are composed.

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JTaylor
Feb 13 2012, 12:05 PM
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I am happy to say I don't have this problem... my playing sounds awful whether the camera is on or off! laugh.gif

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Cosmin Lupu
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QUOTE (JTaylor @ Feb 13 2012, 11:05 AM) *
I am happy to say I don't have this problem... my playing sounds awful whether the camera is on or off! laugh.gif


That's why you should push yourself to limitless levels biggrin.gif you do it till you make it sound right wink.gif

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Feb 13 2012, 08:59 AM) *
I'm having really good result with this idea because the feel more motivated to work on technique and to study theory in order to be able to paly the songs and to understand how these ones are composed.


Will, send some takes as soon as I'll apply this whole idea biggrin.gif

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Blister
Aug 27 2012, 03:21 AM
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I did my first REC today & this thread (which is a real good one!) came to mind directly! The looping technique given in this thread was very helpful & this is the method I used. Luckily no red light on my camera! smile.gif It's tough when you mess up in the beginning but real frustrating getting near the end of the recording & making a mistake. I wish I counted how many takes it took me. A guess would be around 30 (did I just admit that ohmy.gif ) If you watch the REC you will see me give a "thumbs up" at the end. Doing multiple takes, this was my way to let me know it was satisfactory. I now wish I would have waited another 2 seconds so it wouldn't show up on the recording.

I stopped at my first satisfactory take because I had never sync-ed the audio & video recording before & was anxious to try that. There is definitely a bit of trial-&-error in that process, as well.

Now that I have finally done a REC & you can see how I play, PLEASE don't kick me out of GMC! I love it here. smile.gif

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Pourliver
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Every time I try to record something, I mess up, it's like if I was thinking so hard about it, that I forgot to do it... Kinda strange.

When this happens, I usually unplug my guitar, get outside, change my mind, and then get back and nail it. smile.gif

Yesterday I was recording something really awesome, and I think that my amp died, the sounds just faded, I could not hear the sound really loud, and it went back right after... Now I can't even record, I don't know if it's my guitar / pickup / amp, and Google didn't help for this, all those 3 piece can break.. I think it's the amp because the effects fade out too, going from Insane ( Metal ) to a pure clean tone...

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Blister
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QUOTE (Pourliver @ Aug 26 2012, 10:37 PM) *
Every time I try to record something, I mess up, it's like if I was thinking so hard about it, that I forgot to do it... Kinda strange.

When this happens, I usually unplug my guitar, get outside, change my mind, and then get back and nail it. smile.gif

Yesterday I was recording something really awesome, and I think that my amp died, the sounds just faded, I could not hear the sound really loud, and it went back right after... Now I can't even record, I don't know if it's my guitar / pickup / amp, and Google didn't help for this, all those 3 piece can break.. I think it's the amp because the effects fade out too, going from Insane ( Metal ) to a pure clean tone...

Oh no! So sorry to hear that. sad.gif I hope it's a simple fix.

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MonkeyDAthos
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QUOTE (Pourliver @ Aug 27 2012, 03:37 AM) *
Every time I try to record something, I mess up, it's like if I was thinking so hard about it, that I forgot to do it... Kinda strange.


In my case i start to think so hard that it actually becomes harder laugh.gif

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Aug 27 2012, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE (Blister @ Aug 27 2012, 02:21 AM) *
It's tough when you mess up in the beginning but real frustrating getting near the end of the recording & making a mistake.


I hear you on that. Its can sometimes be a lengthy and frustrating process to get a good take. I look at it as extra practice. biggrin.gif

Congrats on your first REC take!

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Ben Higgins
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QUOTE (Blister @ Aug 27 2012, 03:21 AM) *
I did my first REC today & this thread (which is a real good one!) came to mind directly! The looping technique given in this thread was very helpful & this is the method I used. Luckily no red light on my camera! smile.gif It's tough when you mess up in the beginning but real frustrating getting near the end of the recording & making a mistake. I wish I counted how many takes it took me. A guess would be around 30 (did I just admit that ohmy.gif ) If you watch the REC you will see me give a "thumbs up" at the end. Doing multiple takes, this was my way to let me know it was satisfactory. I now wish I would have waited another 2 seconds so it wouldn't show up on the recording.

I stopped at my first satisfactory take because I had never sync-ed the audio & video recording before & was anxious to try that. There is definitely a bit of trial-&-error in that process, as well.

Now that I have finally done a REC & you can see how I play, PLEASE don't kick me out of GMC! I love it here. smile.gif


Well done Gary ! biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Pourliver @ Aug 27 2012, 03:37 AM) *
Every time I try to record something, I mess up, it's like if I was thinking so hard about it, that I forgot to do it... Kinda strange.

When this happens, I usually unplug my guitar, get outside, change my mind, and then get back and nail it. smile.gif

Yesterday I was recording something really awesome, and I think that my amp died, the sounds just faded, I could not hear the sound really loud, and it went back right after... Now I can't even record, I don't know if it's my guitar / pickup / amp, and Google didn't help for this, all those 3 piece can break.. I think it's the amp because the effects fade out too, going from Insane ( Metal ) to a pure clean tone...


Oh.. not good ! Is there any tech support at the music shop where you bought it ?

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Marcus Siepen
Aug 27 2012, 12:07 PM
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I guess we all suffer from this from time to time. The funny thing with me is, when we play live, normally I am not nervous at all, no matter if it is 1000, 10000 or 100000 people in front of the stage. But when it comes to recording and that stupid little red light lights up... this can make me very nervous smile.gif I can't even really explain why I am nervous when it comes to recording, of course I want to deliver a good take, but I want to do the same when we are on stage, and as mentioned there I am not nervous at all, the adrenalin rush might play a part here, don't know... But well, what can we do to work against this? One thing is to be prepared as good as possible of course. If you know your parts and you practice them well before entering the studio then there is one point less to worry about. Going to the studio KNOWING that you still have problems with a couple of licks, riff or leads wont really make you play relaxed. Creating a nice atmosphere is another thing. If you feel good you will play better. The most important lesson I had to learn though is that you can't force things. At some point you will just have to accept that it is not your day, and that it is much better to end a session and come back fresh and relaxed on the next morning. This once happened to me during one of the Blind Guardian recordings (can't exactly remember which one). I had to record a song, and it just was not happening at all, for whatever reason. I played several takes, but none was really good and everything was only getting worse. So at some point we started punching in and out, trying to glue together something that was working, so after several hours we had something that we thought would be ok. On the next morning we checked what I recorded the day before and it sounded absolutely horrible! I told our engeneer to delete everything, played the whole thing once and had a great take, end of story smile.gif

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Cosmin Lupu
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Oh man... Marcus, I totally feel you smile.gif When there's a note that won't come out no matter what, things become so frustrating... I feel like I want to scream laugh.gif But indeed, it's better to relax and let things happen the next day. If you have the time to do it. When you're on a tight budget in the studio, the pressure is even higher laugh.gif

Before recording, you start thinking: 'Oh man, now what? What if it takes me 4 days to record this? biggrin.gif '

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Well, we are only humans, and we tend to have bad days from time to time. So what can you do? Of course having such a day in an expensive studio is pretty bad timing, but well, things like this happen.

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Cosmin Lupu
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QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Aug 27 2012, 12:38 PM) *
Well, we are only humans, and we tend to have bad days from time to time. So what can you do? Of course having such a day in an expensive studio is pretty bad timing, but well, things like this happen.


I just had a bad vocal recording day... laugh.gif I was maybe a half tone under the track... I don't get it, I recorded the demo and it went great and now that I had to do the take which will be used on the EP, I completely sucked...

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Marcus Siepen
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The engeneer played a prank on you and pitched your headphone mix wink.gif

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Cosmin Lupu
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QUOTE (Marcus Siepen @ Aug 27 2012, 04:14 PM) *
The engeneer played a prank on you and pitched your headphone mix wink.gif


Jesus..yes, that's the exact sensation that I had... laugh.gif

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Up until I joined GMC I had not really recorded myself much. And when I started I really had trouble with the recording fever. It's really nice to know that even the very experienced pros have trouble with it. It has gotten better, I have tried some of the other great tips that have been mentioned, one other thing that I have tried is just to record even my warm up takes and when I'm just recording everything it sometimes helps me to forget, or get used to the camera being on by the time I get warmed up and get to the good ones, and then I like to try to do one more like JaxN4 said because I have one good one and all the pressure is off.

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Todd Simpson
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i was talking about this very thing in last saturdays video chat! It's really important to video and audio record
;yourself playing. Especially when first learning. If your not doing this, GET ON IT!

It's a great way to see/hear what you really are doing. Sometimes you'll be shocked at the difference between
what you hear while playing vs watching yourself play.

Also, you'll be able to see if your physical technique needs a tweak. So any students not shooting video
of themselves, WAKE UP CALL! smile.gif

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