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Feb 12 2009, 10:34 PM |
I see.
One question tho, is it Bm or Bm7/-5? I'm asking because of the key, F chord is typical 6th degree in key of Am but Bm chord is not from natural A minor, it's second degree of A Dorian. it contain note F# inside and you'd have to be very careful when soloing since you'd have to think of F note over F chord and F# note over Bm chord, those are 2 scales, A natural minor and A Dorian. Anyhow, the thing Marty was talking about is to point out at chord while soloing. I'll take simpler progression tho, Am, F and G. You can use Am scale here all the time and play around the fretboard, you can also use Am pentatonic to sound more bluesy or som. But to extend sound of your solo a little there's this tool called arpeggio. You need to listen to progression and you simply play F arpeggio over F chord. You can play Am scale up and down the neck, there is nothing wrong with that but when you play same arpeggio over certain chord in progression you point it out since arpeggio is nothing but broken chord played note by note. Then you apply same thing over G chord with G arpeggio and over Am chord with Am arpeggio. You need to be careful with this tho otherwise you might end up playing arpeggios all the time. You need to hear your solo, how it sounds, what effect it creates etc, playing arpeggios following progression is just another tool in arsenal to get wanted effect. Let me know if I missed something. -------------------- Youtube
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Feb 15 2009, 09:41 PM |
In A minor scale you have B diminished chord on 2nd degree,
notes are B, D and F. I said Bm7/-5 because MANY players kind a avoid this triad as B dim chord and play Bm7/-5 instead, so they add note A which is minor 7th to note B. You probably played this chord many times, it has same shape like dim7 chords played on top 4 strings but played on 4 middle strings, B,G,D and A on 2nd fret position. On the other hand, A Dorian has Bm chord on second degree and notes are B,D and F#. Now lets go back to progression you mentioned, Am,F, G and Bm. First 3 chords here are pure Am progression and you can play Am scale all the time or even Am Pentatonic if you wish. With Bm chord you have to be careful whatsoever, you can stick with Am pentatonic BUT it would be wrong to keep within Am scale cause of F/F# note issue. -------------------- Youtube
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Feb 16 2009, 05:30 PM |
I get you problem and this is very common issue
when you face modes for the first time. Am scale, F Lydian and G Mixolydian have same notes but imho it's too messy to think about them as different modes all the time, root is Am and F and G are just chords in progression, not another roots. I believe it's much easier to think of Am scale (or Am pentatonic) over Am,F and G chords instead of thinking of F Lydian over F chord and G Mixolydian over G chord. Each mode has it's own unique sound cause of the root and rest of the notes in scale/mode. In this situation Am is real root while F and G are just passing chords, everything gravitates to Am chord, right? You don't have real chances to hear F Lydian here cause F is not the root, it's Am. As for Bm chord, that one is from A Dorian but you can play even Bm pentatonic cause A Dorian covers all 5 notes of Bm pentatonic anyhow. -------------------- Youtube
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Feb 17 2009, 01:32 PM |
But say if we suddently got an G#min7 then i can play G# phrygian right? since the G# issent in Am scale, so i can use another scale because it isent the root ? correct me if im wrong. And then shift back to am penta when the am chord comes up. G#m7 would be pretty much "out of the key" chord if you're into key of Am already, there are too many different notes like D# and F#. You can play G# phrygian there or simply G#m7 arpeggio. But isent the A dorian the same as an Bphrygian -? The next scale after dorian is an Phrygian ? A Dorian and B Phrygian have the same notes but they are NOT the same, root is what makes all the difference. -------------------- Youtube
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May 13 2009, 11:34 PM |
Sorry for butting inn, but when I learned this stuff I always was confused about roots too, so I will just add that here your Root is Am, but also Bm is outchord so when you play it will be momentarily root. Any scale with B D F# in it. Only if you feel or hear it as a root, I can't tho. -------------------- Youtube
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May 18 2009, 11:49 PM |
Only if you feel or hear it as a root, I can't tho. Depends on how long the chord's played, I guess. Sorry if I was wrong:) |
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May 19 2009, 01:07 PM |
Depends on how long the chord's played, I guess. And what comes after as well, we need to look at the whole picture. -------------------- Youtube
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May 19 2009, 01:43 PM |
And what comes after as well, we need to look at the whole picture. +1001 ! Couldn't agree any more with what Muris said ! |
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May 19 2009, 05:29 PM |
+1001 ! Couldn't agree any more with what Muris said ! Cheers Pedja. -------------------- Youtube
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May 22 2009, 10:13 PM |
Ok. Sorry but I have to start asking questions now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1_NpmMjX8o at 0.38 Isn't that a brief rootchange? This is what I based my faulty post on xD |
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May 23 2009, 03:12 AM |
Ok. Sorry but I have to start asking questions now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1_NpmMjX8o at 0.38 Isn't that a brief rootchange? This is what I based my faulty post on xD I wouldn't say so, it's just V and IV played twice, then you have VI and back to I. -------------------- Youtube
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May 24 2009, 01:19 AM |
Ok. Why does it have such an 'out' effect then? If I play C F F GG C then it doesn't sound like that. I really like that kind of style! I haven't heard any kind of "out" effect there, to be honest. -------------------- Youtube
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May 24 2009, 04:16 AM |
Thanks for being specific.
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May 24 2009, 09:36 AM |
Oups, I checked clip again and yeah, I was listening to different section,
0:28 and not 0:38. Here's the thing, at the beginning you have root chord played with keys as some sort of minor7/9, latter on it's minor 6 as well. So Dorian works nice for both btw. And at 0:32 there is same root (1st degree chord) but player as minormaj7 and that's what creates kind a out effect. I said kind s cause it's still the same root triad wise, it's just added maj7th that sounds the way it sounds, melodic minor can be used there. So it's something like different type of root chord but still the same root if you follow me. -------------------- Youtube
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