Toontrack Ez Drummer - Creating Drum Tracks, By Dave Weiner (Steve Vai Band) |
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Aug 31 2011, 07:21 AM
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i like EZ, but, for my taste it is a bit limited, i like to get the raw sounds and mix them my own way, and sometimes on EZ the sounds are already too processed.
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Aug 31 2011, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE (Adrian Figallo @ Aug 31 2011, 02:21 AM)  i like EZ, but, for my taste it is a bit limited, i like to get the raw sounds and mix them my own way, and sometimes on EZ the sounds are already too processed. I use BFD2 drums, with some of the best expansions out there, i recommend the evil drums and the rock drums, GREAT SOUNDS. This post was mostly for students who are just getting going with drum software. Once they are ready for more advanced stuff, I'd also suggest growing to BFD or doing what I did and adding DRUMS FROM HELL expansion Pack on EZ Ddrummer. It sounds MUCH better than the stock sounds. Also, EZ DRUMMER will let you send each and every drum sound to it's own track inside your DAW (like BFD and Steven Slate Drums) This is an amazing feature that lets me take the raw sounds and mix them my own way, adding fx, compression, eq, pan, side chain, etc. just like I would if mixing a real drum kit.  In addition, I"ll sometimes start with Ez Drummer/Drums from hell for the patterns and then replace ALL of the sounds with the STEVEN SLATE DRUMS module so that I can build a pattern quickly and then use SLATE for actual sounds that allows me to keep my indiidual tracks per drum sound and use the AMAZING slate samples which are IMHO simply the best available anywhere. Recorded at NRG in L.A. and used by just wads of producers/remixers. Here is a link with some sound demos. http://stevenslatedrums.com/index.php?opti...r&Itemid=66 If you have not tried the slate pack it's worth a listen for your personal projects. I'd have to say they sound better than BFD for rock/heavy stuff. And best of all it runs as a KONTACK instrument!  Although, I find the BFD kits are more flexible and offer wider variety than EZ/Hell and Slate put together. I almost went with the BFD kit instead of Ez/Hell and Slate. But the fact that Toon track has so many great drummers making midi loops for them (Thomas Haake from Meshuggah among others) I just couldn't say no. Not to mention the fact that Each is pretty cheap and you can start with EZ and build your way up. But to each his own! 
This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Aug 31 2011, 12:03 PM |
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Aug 31 2011, 12:34 PM
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Yes, EZD is very good. Lots of people underestimate it, but in fact, I've found that the samples of the wood is actually quite defined. I use Superior Drummer 2.0 with some cool expansions, and although it has better cymbals, I personally like to use EZD for pilot projects because it's easier. After that, SD2 comes into play. They are compatible, and pretty much compatible with GM Drum map.
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Aug 31 2011, 12:48 PM
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Thanks for this, Todd. Splendid tut.
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Aug 31 2011, 01:01 PM
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Yeah EZ is a great plugin !He has plenty of expansion and is relatively easy to setup decent sound.
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Aug 31 2011, 05:28 PM
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I used EZ for my lessons and song demos and it works great. It's easy and fast to use. You don't have to work too much in the mix to get a good drum sound.
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Aug 31 2011, 05:52 PM
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I totally agree
 EZD is among the best things out there 
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Aug 31 2011, 05:59 PM
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will check the STEVEN SLATE DRUMS, i hear everyone loves em, hope they are not too processed
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Aug 31 2011, 06:23 PM
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We get a lot of producers who swear by Drumagog here as a drum replacement software.
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Aug 31 2011, 06:35 PM
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that's a crazy good plugin tony, did you tried it yourself? i'm wondering how accurate is it.
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Aug 31 2011, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Aug 31 2011, 07:23 PM) We get a lot of producers who swear by Drumagog here as a drum replacement software. Yes, on my first band's album, drumagog was used to add to the snare. It sounded great. I couldn't use it tho, I think professionals, people that miked & recorded lots of real drums, can use it to create something that sounds realistic. -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Sep 1 2011, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE (zoom @ Sep 1 2011, 08:41 AM) Cool! I been thinking about getting something like this. It looks pretty easy to use. How do you buy EZdrummer. Is it a download or buy CD's? For recording i'm using tone port ux2 and currently alberton live for recording which has midi tracks capability so I assume EZdrummer would work with this. Just to be a pain I have a pc and also a mac but the mac is a power pc so I'm not sure which way I go in the furture if you buy cd's can it be loaded on either computer?  Download version is available, and it's compatible on both platforms = you get both installation files for Mac and PC. http://www.toontrack.com/products.asp?item...CFYK-zAoddxZT2w -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Sep 1 2011, 07:46 PM
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I love EZdrummer and also bought the DFH expansion.
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Sep 1 2011, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Aug 31 2011, 01:23 PM) We get a lot of producers who swear by Drumagog here as a drum replacement software. My buddy here who produces the indieatl.com show SWEARS by drumagog for drum replacement. He records bands live so if a mic has bleed, etc. He can swap out any drum track for a drum sample and then mix it in as if it were a real track. Switches live drums to triggered drums in a sense. Sampled/triggered. Ive sat in during sessions when he's using it but I've never actually touched it. It does look cool though. The new version is way spiff. So you could use it as a plugin replacement just the same way I've been using STEVEN SLATE DRUMS. It will swap out the drum sounds (even 8 tracks of them at a time!) with sampled kits that are just amazing from Gretch, Drum Workshop and others. The baby version is actually cheaper than SLATE which is a bit shocking! A great choice. I hadn't considered it as a sound replacement plugin until Tony mentioned it but yeah, that's brilliant! http://www.drumagog.com/  He also LOVES autotune but not for vocals. He uses it on Guitars! Some bands don't have perfect intonation and it can cause issues. So he sometimes whips out autotune to make the guitars play nice with each other. |
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Sep 8 2011, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE (Adrian Figallo @ Aug 31 2011, 02:21 AM) i like EZ, but, for my taste it is a bit limited, i like to get the raw sounds and mix them my own way, and sometimes on EZ the sounds are already too processed. I use BFD2 drums, with some of the best expansions out there, i recommend the evil drums and the rock drums, GREAT SOUNDS. I'm going to post this as a new topic as folks not interested in EZ drummer might not see this post. This is too good not to share! DEAL ALERT: BFD ECO (The little Brother of the KIller BFD2 Drum Software) Is currently being offered through most outlets for $29 U.S. which is about ABOUT 30 EURO The drums sounds in this plugin are just killer. For 30 Euro, it's a No Brainer even if you have Ez Drummer already. I"ve got Steve Slate Drums EX as well and I"m getting a copy of BFD ECO before this price runs out. Here is a link to a European Online Music Vendor I found selling it at this price. http://www.thomann.de/gb/fxpansion_eco.htm  Here is a vid demo. The drums are taken from the same samples on the higher end version that costs lots more. This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Sep 8 2011, 12:54 AM |
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Sep 8 2011, 06:38 AM
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im checking drumagog, looks interesting.
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