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Apr 1 2012, 05:16 PM
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I write when the mood strikes me. I really want to bridge the gap between poems to lyrics. I don't really know phrasing.
I will share my lyrics first, but its not meant to be literal. I would really like to collab on bringing the baby to life. Let me know. Beat the beauty Now look at what you made me do Squeezed it from you Dripping nectar down my hand Its not my fault Its not my fault With your smug smiles privileged Porcelain skin I know the answers I know the answers In your miserable world You made me invisible Divisible A zero I never belonged You made that clear Beat the beauty Now I’m wrong You cry for mercy Now I’m wrong I’ll squeeze the life You took from me Beat the beauty No longer beautiful This post has been edited by DarkWaveRiffer: Apr 1 2012, 05:16 PM -------------------- Keep on playing!
DWR My goal is to learn to play guitar like its my second language, and my first words to the world will be "Bite Me!". "Just fn play already!" Guitarist Title: Air Guitarist  Guitarist Title thread DWR's EPIC Practice Journal l DarkWaveRiffer's Modern Music Mentored By Cosmin Thread Lead Mastery Mentored by Gab Attacking Scales Mentored By Alex Thread Want to know how to practice for success?? Click here!! Are you sabotaging your practice? Click here! |
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Apr 3 2012, 03:28 AM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 2 2012, 03:11 AM)  Hey man! Nice thought  do you have some music to go along with these?  I can think of something maybe DLC or Deftones oriented somehow!No, that's my problem, I can write all day, I just don't have the phrasing.I can come up with riffs on guitar, but not full musical expression. If I did, I know I could write to it. Any ways, you hit the nail on the head DLC, Deftones, or Chevelle. I was actually watching fight club when that Ed Norton beat the crap out of the pretty boy, and that's when I got inspired. QUOTE (Ben Higgins @ Apr 2 2012, 03:24 AM) I like those lyrics, very dark. Almost like something My Dying Bride would do Whatever music goes with it, I'm thinking it should be low. 80's pop metal like Ratt probably wouldn't be the right counterpart to this ? I can see where you are coming from. Wow, I am glad I re-read you reply. I swear I read "Rat probably would be right counterpart".lol My dying bride, I am not too familar with. I checked out some of their music, and it seems kind of goth, and the singer seems to speak more than sing. I like bands that are more vocal like Trouble, Chevelle, 10 Years, DLC. I know some may argue Chevelle doesn't sing, but they have great phrasing. Like I said, I am up for a collab, do we have an vocalists here on the forum? Has gmc ever done a full song collab with vocals? -------------------- Keep on playing!
DWR My goal is to learn to play guitar like its my second language, and my first words to the world will be "Bite Me!". "Just fn play already!" Guitarist Title: Air Guitarist Guitarist Title thread DWR's EPIC Practice Journal l DarkWaveRiffer's Modern Music Mentored By Cosmin Thread Lead Mastery Mentored by Gab Attacking Scales Mentored By Alex Thread Want to know how to practice for success?? Click here!! Are you sabotaging your practice? Click here! |
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Apr 3 2012, 05:51 PM
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When you wrote this, did any type of musical melody inspire you while writing it? I mean, were you humming one day, and then one of the lines come out that you sang and then you finished the poem? Or did you write it without any musical melody in mind?
I find I'll be humming a tune that pops into my mind, then some wacky line will seem to fit the melody, then I use that as the chorus or hook to the song - the rest is a matter of coming up with a chord progression to back it. -------------------- The more I practice, the more I wish I had time to practice!
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Apr 4 2012, 03:22 AM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 3 2012, 09:48 AM) I am also a vocalist  Kris can sing as well and we can make a vocal collab. Regarding the music, in my opinion it's easier to orchestrate some lyrics than to create some lyrics and a vocal line when having the chords already. I mean, it's like the lyrics are calling for a certain form and phrasing when you have the chords only, the possibilities are ENDLESS. That being said you can start analyzing the patterns appearing at DLC and Chevelle in their vocal lines can you figure out repetitive ideas in their songs?The lyrics were kind of inspired by The Meddler from Chevelle. The lyrics can be broken into phrasings. Where maybe an idea is built from a couple of lines.I will have to look at DLC, and Chevelle see if there is any phrasing patterns. QUOTE (SirJamsalot @ Apr 3 2012, 11:51 AM) When you wrote this, did any type of musical melody inspire you while writing it? I mean, were you humming one day, and then one of the lines come out that you sang and then you finished the poem? Or did you write it without any musical melody in mind? I find I'll be humming a tune that pops into my mind, then some wacky line will seem to fit the melody, then I use that as the chorus or hook to the song - the rest is a matter of coming up with a chord progression to back it. No, I wish. I do have times, that I will be dreaming of a song that I have never heard before, and I will wake up, and if I am lucky I might remember some of the vocals, and melodies. I have been lucky enough to get to my guitar teacher, and have him put it to guitar. Even my own dreams , the music I come up with is to hard for me to play. lol I am trying to think of vocal phrasings, and see if I can come up with ideas. I usually get hit with a feeling that I am compelled to write,and usually because something struck me emotionally, and I just start writing. -------------------- Keep on playing!
DWR My goal is to learn to play guitar like its my second language, and my first words to the world will be "Bite Me!". "Just fn play already!" Guitarist Title: Air Guitarist Guitarist Title thread DWR's EPIC Practice Journal l DarkWaveRiffer's Modern Music Mentored By Cosmin Thread Lead Mastery Mentored by Gab Attacking Scales Mentored By Alex Thread Want to know how to practice for success?? Click here!! Are you sabotaging your practice? Click here! |
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Apr 6 2012, 03:04 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 5 2012, 09:23 AM) Bro, I am in the opposite situation with this track I am workin on, for which I have to create vocal lines and new lyrics. What you hear in there is some mumbling which my band mate tried and we shall start from that I will think a bit on the process as I am going through it and will let you know on how things are looking from the other side (not having the lyrics but having the complete detailed track) we can exchange ideas and maybe we can both reach our desired goals  will upload on soundcloud soon!what say you? Cosmin Sure, I can take a listen, and see what I come up with. BTW the other day I was at work, and all the sudden I heard in my head this phrasing, it was a simple verse, kind of something I might hear a child say, but the vocal melody was interesting. It was stuck in my head, but I knew if I didn't get it recorded I would lose it. So I ran down to the parking garage, got into my car, and recorded the vocal phrasing in my phone. -------------------- Keep on playing!
DWR My goal is to learn to play guitar like its my second language, and my first words to the world will be "Bite Me!". "Just fn play already!" Guitarist Title: Air Guitarist Guitarist Title thread DWR's EPIC Practice Journal l DarkWaveRiffer's Modern Music Mentored By Cosmin Thread Lead Mastery Mentored by Gab Attacking Scales Mentored By Alex Thread Want to know how to practice for success?? Click here!! Are you sabotaging your practice? Click here! |
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Apr 7 2012, 04:17 PM
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Thanks UC! You gave me a lot to think about, and you filled in some of the blanks I have been thinking about. Voice is another instrument, so makes sense it follows the same rules of timing. So with my poem, I can use as a basis for lyrics, but I realize now it won't be 100% adpatable, but thats ok. Now I have a pretty idea on how to do this. Thanks! QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Apr 6 2012, 08:57 PM) As for phrasing.... this would be what I would for a typical 4/4 - four line structure Now look at what you made me do, forced to take it from you (More syllables, beginning of sung will have some more vocal attack) Dripping nectar down my hand - Its not my fault (only once sung, to bring separation amongst words and leave room for held notes) With your smug smiles privileged, and opaque Porcelain skin (just adding descriptors to fill in rhythmical ideas) Saddened eyes deceive, the meek who look without sight (something I just threw out to keep the lyrics on a physical descriptor passage) I know the answers in your miserable world (a single line break, to initiate a quick transfer of tempo, riff or structure) You made me invisible Divisible A zero I never belonged It's perfectly clear/ intentions now clear/ you spoke without words (Ideas simply to add variety to syllabic phrasing and subtlety) Destroy the beauty Now I’m wrong You cry for mercy Now I’m wrong I’ll squeeze the life You took from me Consume the beauty You stole from me (Pure alliteration, I love doing this as it can so easily add tension and anger to a line) No longer, is there beauty (Classic one line ending to accent the overall feel of a song, a favorite of mine) This makes it seem quite shorter, although that doesnt mean anything. I've written less lyrics for 14 minute songs, its all about the attack and delivery. Phrasing is exactly the same as it is with guitar, think of the vocals as purely another instrument. Each syllable is equivalent to one note, and these syllables can be held to have different values such as 8th, 16th, and so on. When structuring music around lyrics, its best to arrange a rhythmic passage for the words. Pick up a guitar and just play as you sing, you will probably start out purely accenting the words, then the ideas come. You settle on a good idea, stop repeating the rhythmic phrasing for the lyrics and mature the riff a bit more. In time, this process will be completely eliminated and it will be mental and muscle memory. Now when I sit back and look at lyrics I've written, I know their purpose, so I know the musics purpose. These lyrics are contemplative, and angry. But I want contrast, so I will have a riff that is softer, more melodic. Or These lyrics are narrative, and making a statement. I want to accent this so I will put force into these riffs. It's more about understanding yourself, and bringing your mental image into fruition that it is about learning a technique. I honestly think composition can not be taught for 99% of what it is, for our compositions are a reflection of ourselves, and no one can teach you about how you think. Experimentation is key! I wrote and recorded over 40 songs before I really realized what I was doing. I sat here on GMC for a good 2 years listening to instructors, members, and even the great Kris himself ( ) tell me what they liked and didnt like about my songs.In the beginning its harsh, I spent a week on one song only to have it riddled with obvious problem to others, so it does kind of hurt. But be stubborn, it pays off. That feeling of creation, of completing a song. I can live off it Sorry....I rambled  -------------------- Keep on playing!
DWR My goal is to learn to play guitar like its my second language, and my first words to the world will be "Bite Me!". "Just fn play already!" Guitarist Title: Air Guitarist Guitarist Title thread DWR's EPIC Practice Journal l DarkWaveRiffer's Modern Music Mentored By Cosmin Thread Lead Mastery Mentored by Gab Attacking Scales Mentored By Alex Thread Want to know how to practice for success?? Click here!! Are you sabotaging your practice? Click here! |
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Apr 7 2012, 05:13 PM
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I have always been more free verse, and it's rare, but I have written full rhyming poems, but only if that's the way it comes out.
I don't like being limited. The message to me always come first, but I write in such a way that many interpretations can come from it. Which I prefer because it means different things to people. Other than force them to see if how you want. QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Apr 7 2012, 10:19 AM) Hey no problem! Just check out the beginning pages of the lyric boards, my writing was pretty terrible back then This is more mature if this where you are starting out which is good, I notice you didnt force rhymes in there which is often. Remember, the meaning is first, the "rhyme" is always last. I think some people often forget that, rather have a good message that rhyming words. -------------------- Keep on playing!
DWR My goal is to learn to play guitar like its my second language, and my first words to the world will be "Bite Me!". "Just fn play already!" Guitarist Title: Air Guitarist Guitarist Title thread DWR's EPIC Practice Journal l DarkWaveRiffer's Modern Music Mentored By Cosmin Thread Lead Mastery Mentored by Gab Attacking Scales Mentored By Alex Thread Want to know how to practice for success?? Click here!! Are you sabotaging your practice? Click here! |
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Apr 7 2012, 05:17 PM
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I know what you mean, I don't like being direct about my choice of words. I have an obsession with Sci-Fi so I like to wrap everything up in that atmosphere.
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Apr 9 2012, 09:28 AM
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What are your favorite writing subjects Dwr?
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Apr 9 2012, 02:42 PM
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I write about what comes to me. Its a mood that strikes me. Most often its about something I am going through.
Some kind of struggle, loss, disappointment, search for purpose, lost love,Hypocricy, Goverment Conspiracies.... Here is another one I wrote last week. Tomorrow never comes And we will never die A mantra they have embraced For when rich men call to arms We all fall upon our own swords And call it our enemies We hide in plain sight From the truths that plague us That we can never change We can never rise History repeats Crushed in their palm Pressed ashes of those we reminisce It all coincides Lest we forget Our dreams Pray never wake To see the horrors dressed in white Veiled in their true intentions Selling short a destiny There are no gods They killed them all Our prayers unanswered On the borrowed time We are out of time A dream script conspiracy Mirrors and plays On our anxieties Only to hijack our minds And decimate our souls. Can you hear me? They keep calling our names Serving their whims on the backs of the whimpering Look at what they built They scream, “I will not be denied!” Upon the broken, and discarded They reach to touch the sky To touch the sky, they wonder why, As our world dies. I love how Nickelback writes, but I don't have that style. I am not sure my style. QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 9 2012, 03:28 AM) What are your favorite writing subjects Dwr? -------------------- Keep on playing!
DWR My goal is to learn to play guitar like its my second language, and my first words to the world will be "Bite Me!". "Just fn play already!" Guitarist Title: Air Guitarist Guitarist Title thread DWR's EPIC Practice Journal l DarkWaveRiffer's Modern Music Mentored By Cosmin Thread Lead Mastery Mentored by Gab Attacking Scales Mentored By Alex Thread Want to know how to practice for success?? Click here!! Are you sabotaging your practice? Click here! |
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