Fear Based Practice
Gabriel Leopardi
Apr 12 2013, 02:02 PM
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Hello guys! There are some common feelings that we have as musician that are very negative. Have you ever felt overwhelmed by the amount of material you think you need to get through? Have you ever went to sleep thinking that you failed because you didn't practice enough hours?

Kenny Werner talks about this in his amazing book called "Effortless Mastery":
”You feel as though there is a huge workload ahead of you with so little time. You experience a fear of dying before you’ll get it all together! You see, fear has ruined your practising by rushing you through the material, rendering you unable to absorb anything. A fearful mind won’t allow you to concentrate and absorb. Even while focusing on one thing, the mind is exerting subtle or not-so-subtle pressure with the thought of the other things that need tending to. This creates a very anxious and insecure feeling. When you skim the surface, you acquire many bad habits with regard to tempo, fingering and other details. Repetition of these bad habits causes them to grow ingrained ever more deeply into your subconscious, so that you are actually doing what I call negative practice. in this way, one hour of practising is better than two, thirty minutes is better than an hour, and no practising at all would be preferable to that kind of negative practice”.

Let's discuss about this!

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Cosmin Lupu
Apr 12 2013, 07:35 PM
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Hehe smile.gif I see you got the book!

Great addition to your library, my Ro-Argentinian mate biggrin.gif

I sometimes bump into this sort of stuff even now - but I figure it out and laugh at myself before it begins to try and take control of my head..

For instance, I am going around the idea of building up a Japanse mode based lesson that would depict the epic battle between Sasaki Kojiro and Miyamoto Musashi. The purpose of the lesson is to describe the way in which you can illustrate a well known story, with the aid of music.

Now, my greatest fear and the thing that kind of keeps me away from starting it, is a really stupid one: what if I won't be able to use all the Japanese modes that I have studied? I keep telling myself that I may even use just one and if the dynamics are right, it will do the job without trouble, but that little devil on my shoulder keeps telling me: 'What if you won't be able to make the best composition possible because you haven't used all you wanted to use?'

Funny or not, this silly little thought, kept me from starting smile.gif But I will just begin, regardless of what my mind says and we'll see what we get!

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klasaine
Apr 13 2013, 12:00 AM
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The thing that has sort of cured me of that thinking is that I've been playing in bands and on recordings for so long and I realize I don't ever even use half of what I know. So I figure if I sit down to learn something (for myself - not upcoming project/work stuff - that I'm very disciplined about) and I don't get through it or, even if I get bored and disinterested and end up not finishing(?) - it just doesn't stress me out. I figure I'll get something from some of it or do it later or just be led to something else. The only consistent thing about 'learning' music that I've found is that it's friggin' E N D L E S S ... ... ...

So Cos, if you do a Japanese scale lesson I can promise you three things ...
1) I will absolutely learn and utilize one scale for sure.
2) I will use that scale the rest of my playing days in some way or another.
3) I can ONLY guarantee that much and it doesn't bother me wink.gif

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Cosmin Lupu
Apr 13 2013, 09:22 AM
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Hehe, I am honored Ken!

I will do it, because I want to see how well I can make the story come to life smile.gif

Here it is:

According to the legend, Musashi arrived more than three hours late, and goaded Kojirō by taunting him. When Kojirō attacked, his blow came as close as to sever Musashi's chonmage. He came close to victory several times until, supposedly blinded by the sunset behind Musashi, Musashi struck him on the skull with his oversized bokken, or wooden sword, which was 110 centimeters long. Musashi supposedly fashioned the long bokken, a type called a suburitō due to its above-average length, by shaving down the spare oar of the boat in which he arrived at the duel with his wakizashi. Musashi had been late for the duel on purpose in order to psychologically unnerve his opponent, a tactic he used on previous occasions, such as during his series of duels with the Yoshioka swordsmen.

Another version of the legend recounts that when Musashi finally arrived, Kojirō shouted insults at him, but Musashi just smiled. Angered even further, Kojirō leapt into combat, blinded by rage. Kojiro attempted his famous "swallow's blade" or "swallow cut," but Musashi's oversized bokken hit Kojiro first, causing him to fall down; before Kojiro could finish his swallow cut, Musashi smashed Kojiro's left rib, puncturing his lungs and killing him. Musashi then hastily retreated to his boat and sailed away. This was Musashi's last fatal duel.


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Gabriel Leopardi
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 12 2013, 03:35 PM) *
Hehe smile.gif I see you got the book!

Great addition to your library, my Ro-Argentinian mate biggrin.gif

I sometimes bump into this sort of stuff even now - but I figure it out and laugh at myself before it begins to try and take control of my head..

For instance, I am going around the idea of building up a Japanse mode based lesson that would depict the epic battle between Sasaki Kojiro and Miyamoto Musashi. The purpose of the lesson is to describe the way in which you can illustrate a well known story, with the aid of music.

Now, my greatest fear and the thing that kind of keeps me away from starting it, is a really stupid one: what if I won't be able to use all the Japanese modes that I have studied? I keep telling myself that I may even use just one and if the dynamics are right, it will do the job without trouble, but that little devil on my shoulder keeps telling me: 'What if you won't be able to make the best composition possible because you haven't used all you wanted to use?'

Funny or not, this silly little thought, kept me from starting smile.gif But I will just begin, regardless of what my mind says and we'll see what we get!


yeah, this is a normal feeling and usually block us to be natural and enjoy what we do. I find that setting possible goals for every week, having an organize schedule that covers all the things that I must and have to do helps me to avoid that feeling when I go to sleep. The reason why is that I can't rest until everything is done, and the reality and it's impossible to have everything I want done in one day. It comes the night and my mind is all the time saying "you have to do that, you have to do this". This can be applied to work, to studying music, practicing, composing, etc...


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Cosmin Lupu
Apr 13 2013, 06:09 PM
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Alright! I threw away all the silly thoughts and here's what I got so far:

I decided to do it in 4 parts

The sea (it is the first draft that you will hear) I actually started the basic idea which will be developed further. I am using the Kumoi mode here (1 2 b3 5 b6) and some Shakuhachi traditional Japanese flute samples, but I will most likely try to find a Shakuhachi pluggin, so that I may build my own lines.

It will be tense but it will have release moments - Musashi is preparing himself on his boat by carving the oar with which he struck down Kojiro while his opponent is growing more and more tense because of Musashi's late arrival.

Face to face - super tension will build up, as the two greats meet face to face!

The fight - this one will be hard - I'll try to depict each deadly technique that the two were using: Tora Buri (Tiger's Leap) by Musashi and the 'Swallow's Tail in Flight' by Kojiro. There will probably be a lot of short aggressive phrases using various guitar playing techniques. Hard one, I think..

Satori - Kojiro dies at Musashi's wooden oar and Musashi realizes the loss of a great swordsman. It is said that this is when he reached Satori - the spiritual awakening. This will be a sad but serene final part...

I have a lot to work on it, but I wanted to do it a long time from now smile.gif

Wish me luck .. biggrin.gif

Cosmin

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Gabriel Leopardi
Apr 15 2013, 02:18 PM
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Cosmin, practice sound epic and amazing organized in this way. smile.gif

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Apr 13 2013, 05:09 PM) *
Alright! I threw away all the silly thoughts and here's what I got so far:

I decided to do it in 4 parts

The sea (it is the first draft that you will hear) I actually started the basic idea which will be developed further. I am using the Kumoi mode here (1 2 b3 5 b6) and some Shakuhachi traditional Japanese flute samples, but I will most likely try to find a Shakuhachi pluggin, so that I may build my own lines.

It will be tense but it will have release moments - Musashi is preparing himself on his boat by carving the oar with which he struck down Kojiro while his opponent is growing more and more tense because of Musashi's late arrival.

Face to face - super tension will build up, as the two greats meet face to face!

The fight - this one will be hard - I'll try to depict each deadly technique that the two were using: Tora Buri (Tiger's Leap) by Musashi and the 'Swallow's Tail in Flight' by Kojiro. There will probably be a lot of short aggressive phrases using various guitar playing techniques. Hard one, I think..

Satori - Kojiro dies at Musashi's wooden oar and Musashi realizes the loss of a great swordsman. It is said that this is when he reached Satori - the spiritual awakening. This will be a sad but serene final part...

I have a lot to work on it, but I wanted to do it a long time from now smile.gif

Wish me luck .. biggrin.gif

Cosmin


This it totally fascinating. The music sounds brilliant Cosmin and the story itself is really inspiring material. What a great idea ! Can't wait to hear the rest of it smile.gif

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Gabriel Leopardi
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I agree with Ben about the song in progress! It sounds beautiful, can't wait to hear the whole thing! smile.gif

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Cosmin Lupu
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Thank you gentlemen! I am eager as well and I hope I can come up with good stuff!

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I agree with some parts of the article, but it is scientifically proven that your brain absorbs really well under stress.
Not saying that you want to leave everything for the last minute.But your brain will do everything to get it in your mind.

however it is not recommended as a standard practical procedure, and of course for absorbing is concentration needed etc. . I have to google up the sources that were given to me by my lecturer who gave us these sources.

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Cosmin Lupu
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QUOTE (snackajacks @ Apr 15 2013, 04:27 PM) *
I agree with some parts of the article, but it is scientifically proven that your brain absorbs really well under stress.
Not saying that you want to leave everything for the last minute.But your brain will do everything to get it in your mind.

however it is not recommended as a standard practical procedure, and of course for absorbing is concentration needed etc. . I have to google up the sources that were given to me by my lecturer who gave us these sources.


I once read an article titled 'Creativity under the gun' smile.gif I think it is closely related to what you are talking about, so I am eager to read the materials once you find them, Marc

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