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If you follow the improvisation course you'll notice that the first week covers the two most popular shapes and then the following week covers the other 3 ones. Then, you'll find sequences and other stuff that will help you to get used to the different shapes.

Each shape can be learn by itself and then you can work on connecting them. The connection can be done vertically on 1 string or playing one shapes up and getting back down using the following.

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Mar 14 2016, 12:36 PM) *
If you follow the improvisation course you'll notice that the first week covers the two most popular shapes and then the following week covers the other 3 ones. Then, you'll find sequences and other stuff that will help you to get used to the different shapes.

Each shape can be learn by itself and then you can work on connecting them. The connection can be done vertically on 1 string or playing one shapes up and getting back down using the following.

Again, learning the Pentatonic scale in this way first will give you a good base and template to then incorporate the modes that are build adding 2 notes more.


So I am as of now working on:

1.Technical: Ben's basic picking
2.Improvisation: Week 1: 1st Lesson(CAGED system)

Good to go?

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yes! Please share videos in a few days to let me check your practice.

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Mar 15 2016, 01:47 PM) *
yes! Please share videos in a few days to let me check your practice.


Hi Gab,

In Bens picking lesson i am facing challenge in the last part where there is a combination of 8th note and 16th note.....when I am playing at 120 bpm.My 16th note are lagging in some notes.Shall I work on it until it gets smooth or shall I work on a different 16th note specific exercise and then practice the Bens part?

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Is it possible to see a video of you playing the part at a tempo that you are comfortable?

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Mar 20 2016, 06:28 PM) *
Is it possible to see a video of you playing the part at a tempo that you are comfortable?


Hi Gab,

would like to know....how long u practiced when u were starting with guitar?what music and guitarists motivated you?since u are so technically and musically sound.....i would suggest u to take on the carnatic style and make a video on that some day?

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Hi mate, thanks for your words. I think that it's a good idea! I'll do a video about it in the future.

However I'll give you some details here. I've started playing guitar when I was a little child. My favourite bands in those years where Guns and roses, Queen, Ramones, Rolling Stones, Nirvana among many others. I've always enjoyed songs over guitar solos. Inspired mostly by Slash I started playing on an old nylon guitar every day until my parents bought me my first electric guitar at the age of 11. With the pass of time, guitar started to become and addiction and I used to play guitar all day after school.

My inspiration was always evolving in any sense. I can see the map of my musical evolution during those years very clearly.

First goal: Learning to play like Rolling Stones, Ramones, Guns and roses.
Second goal: Iron Maiden, Judas Priest.
Third goal: Yngwie Malmsteen, Gilbert, Satriani, Vay and Power Metal Bands
Fourth goal: Dream Theater, Petrucci, and progressive classics.
Fifth goal: Learning harmony and composition. I become very interested on production and composition. I've started playing and analizying classical music as well as any other style (pop, fusion).
Sixth goal: Make my own band and achieve my dreams.

These items where the motivators that make me study a lot, analyse music, practice, going to university, private teachers and everything I've done.

I'm seen most as a guitarist here but I consider myself more a composer/producer who loves guitar. This is why I listen to every type of music.

Music is so inspiring and exciting!

Ok, I could be talking hours about all the things I've done. Imagine that I've been more than 20 years dedicating to music EVERY day, at least 3 hours... most of the days more hours... smile.gif

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Apr 19 2016, 01:56 PM) *
Hi mate, thanks for your words. I think that it's a good idea! I'll do a video about it in the future.

However I'll give you some details here. I've started playing guitar when I was a little child. My favourite bands in those years where Guns and roses, Queen, Ramones, Rolling Stones, Nirvana among many others. I've always enjoyed songs over guitar solos. Inspired mostly by Slash I started playing on an old nylon guitar every day until my parents bought me my first electric guitar at the age of 11. With the pass of time, guitar started to become and addiction and I used to play guitar all day after school.

My inspiration was always evolving in any sense. I can see the map of my musical evolution during those years very clearly.

First goal: Learning to play like Rolling Stones, Ramones, Guns and roses.
Second goal: Iron Maiden, Judas Priest.
Third goal: Yngwie Malmsteen, Gilbert, Satriani, Vay and Power Metal Bands
Fourth goal: Dream Theater, Petrucci, and progressive classics.
Fifth goal: Learning harmony and composition. I become very interested on production and composition. I've started playing and analizying classical music as well as any other style (pop, fusion).
Sixth goal: Make my own band and achieve my dreams.

These items where the motivators that make me study a lot, analyse music, practice, going to university, private teachers and everything I've done.

I'm seen most as a guitarist here but I consider myself more a composer/producer who loves guitar. This is why I listen to every type of music.

Music is so inspiring and exciting!

Ok, I could be talking hours about all the things I've done. Imagine that I've been more than 20 years dedicating to music EVERY day, at least 3 hours... most of the days more hours... smile.gif


Wow....that was an awesome read....when u were starting out...how did u approached playing....were u going through scales chords improvising or learning songs and understanding scales and chords by playing them?

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I started playing along my favourite songs using songbooks. At the age of 12/13, a blues rock teacher taught me the Pentatonic Scale and it was like magic! I could solo over every song. So I used to play over the songs all day, I played the chords but also jammed over them. I have done this for many years, learning songs, learning its progressions, analysing the key, scales, and jamming over them. This, combined with technique exercises have been my main approach to music and guitar...

When I got into more complex styles like progressive, tango, classical, blues jazz, and fusion, I had to study more about theory in order to understand what was happening. I'm still learning new things every day...



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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Apr 20 2016, 01:22 PM) *
I started playing along my favourite songs using songbooks. At the age of 12/13, a blues rock teacher taught me the Pentatonic Scale and it was like magic! I could solo over every song. So I used to play over the songs all day, I played the chords but also jammed over them. I have done this for many years, learning songs, learning its progressions, analysing the key, scales, and jamming over them. This, combined with technique exercises have been my main approach to music and guitar...

When I got into more complex styles like progressive, tango, classical, blues jazz, and fusion, I had to study more about theory in order to understand what was happening. I'm still learning new things every day...


Can I learn in the same way.....I feel its more inspiring....coz unless and until I play some songs based upon chords or a scale,it becomes a bit boring....but when a song is played it seems I can find how is it put to use....how the sound is when applied to a song....

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QUOTE (AyanG @ Apr 20 2016, 01:46 PM) *
Can I learn in the same way.....I feel its more inspiring....coz unless and until I play some songs based upon chords or a scale,it becomes a bit boring....but when a song is played it seems I can find how is it put to use....how the sound is when applied to a song....



Sure! You can! The tricky part nowadays is that there is too much information and student can get distracted too quickly. The secret is to go deep with each song and practice it every day for at least some months...

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Apr 21 2016, 01:36 PM) *
Sure! You can! The tricky part nowadays is that there is too much information and student can get distracted too quickly. The secret is to go deep with each song and practice it every day for at least some months...

OK....can u share or devise a plan for me in that way....I want to give myself a few years to learn and make a foundation on guitar and music....and then will shift into a music career....

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Sure! Please write here 10 of your favourite songs at the moment.

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Apr 22 2016, 01:06 PM) *
Sure! Please write here 10 of your favourite songs at the moment.


1.hotel california
2.sweet child o mine
3.still got the blues(gary moore)
4.hollow years(dream theater)
5.patience(guns n roses)
6.behind blue eyes
7.soldier of fortune
8.comfortably numb
9.smoke on the water
10.turn the page(metallica)

and by the way what do u think is a good way to learn guitar playing for an beginner to pro?

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Ok, that's a cool list. This could be your repertory and your whole practice could be based around these songs. We should group the songs by their difficulty to start with the easier ones. I remember learning simplified versions of my favourite songs when I was a beginner in order to play them no matter what. This was the trick to play every day at every time...

You can also start by learning songs without solos and only play those solos that are at your level. The trickier ones can be goals in which we will base the complementary exercises and lessons.

This is how I would organize the groups:

Easier:
behind blue eyes
patience(guns n roses)
comfortably numb
smoke on the water
turn the page(metallica)

More difficult:
hotel california
sweet child o mine
still got the blues(gary moore)
hollow years(dream theater)
soldier of fortune


You could start this week with two of the first group. Learn the songs, play along with backing tracks or real songs and share here a video to let me see what other exercises you should practice to master the songs.

At the same time, I'd like you to analyze the songs. You should write down the structure, the key, chord progressions (grades), scale used, and details about overall arrangement and production.

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Apr 24 2016, 03:38 PM) *
Ok, that's a cool list. This could be your repertory and your whole practice could be based around these songs. We should group the songs by their difficulty to start with the easier ones. I remember learning simplified versions of my favourite songs when I was a beginner in order to play them no matter what. This was the trick to play every day at every time...

You can also start by learning songs without solos and only play those solos that are at your level. The trickier ones can be goals in which we will base the complementary exercises and lessons.

This is how I would organize the groups:

Easier:
behind blue eyes
patience(guns n roses)
comfortably numb
smoke on the water
turn the page(metallica)

More difficult:
hotel california
sweet child o mine
still got the blues(gary moore)
hollow years(dream theater)
soldier of fortune


You could start this week with two of the first group. Learn the songs, play along with backing tracks or real songs and share here a video to let me see what other exercises you should practice to master the songs.

At the same time, I'd like you to analyze the songs. You should write down the structure, the key, chord progressions (grades), scale used, and details about overall arrangement and production.

Any question?

Wow....thanks.....will start doing as u say......I didn't understood what is structure and what u meant by overall arrngmnt and prductn?

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QUOTE (AyanG @ Apr 24 2016, 12:59 PM) *
Wow....thanks.....will start doing as u say......I didn't understood what is structure and what u meant by overall arrngmnt and prductn?



Structure refers to identify the parts of a song: intro, verse, pre-chorus, chorus, verse 2, bridge, solo section, instrumental section, etc.

Arrangements refers to what the instruments are doing.

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Apr 25 2016, 04:29 AM) *
Structure refers to identify the parts of a song: intro, verse, pre-chorus, chorus, verse 2, bridge, solo section, instrumental section, etc.

Arrangements refers to what the instruments are doing.


Hi Gab,

I started with songs but in some parts the chords came up that I didnot know and also scales.So I think its better I start with some lessons and once I complete them I will do some songs based on the lessons.What say?Please share one or 2 beginner lesson to start with

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Hi mate,

here I am to help you. Please share what you got and then I'll help you to complete the analysis and how to continue... It's totally GREAT to find scales and chords that you don't know in those songs... that's what we are looking for... smile.gif

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ May 28 2016, 04:20 PM) *
Hi mate,

here I am to help you. Please share what you got and then I'll help you to complete the analysis and how to continue... It's totally GREAT to find scales and chords that you don't know in those songs... that's what we are looking for... smile.gif


Hi Gab,
I am getting confused with what to learn and how to learn given there are such a daunting amount of materials and ways to learn guitar.Kindly share a better path for me so that I can grow and learn stuff in a proper structured way like scales and chords and arpeggios and modes,else I will again fall in the maze.I have the habit of searching for lessons and ways to learn more rather than sitting and playing stuff and I would like to admit this problem of mine with you.kindly help me create a structured daily or weekly plan so that I can learn the most out of a chunk of time.

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