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Poweramp Recommendations? |
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Mar 18 2016, 03:04 PM |
Mesa ... http://www.mesaboogie.com/amplifiers/elect...amps/index.html
Marshall ... https://marshallamps.com/products/amplifier...ack-power-amps/ ADA, if you can find one ... https://reverb.com/item/300193-ada-microtube-200-power-amp Quilter - not strictly a power amp as it does have some EQ ... http://www.quilterlabs.com/index.php/produ.../tone-block-200 These are the ones most guys use when they're using power amps. They most definitely impart a 'tone' as well as a dynamic punch. *ISP also makes a (considerably cheaper) power amp for guitar ... http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Ste...sZAoaAmkC8P8HAQ The Marshall and Boogie sound great! (I used to own a Mesa 20/20 EL-84 rack power amp). The ADA is pretty good and very light. I've played through Quilter 'amps' and they sound pretty good are very light and powerful. Never played through an ISP amp. This post has been edited by klasaine: Mar 18 2016, 03:34 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Mar 18 2016, 03:45 PM |
Using a conventional power amp/cabinet which colors the tone significantly will interfere with the power amp/cabinet emulation in the Eleven. That's why most people generally use an FRFR power amp/cabinet with an Eleven, or any modeler for that matter. That's a flat response cabinet that doesn't impart much color to the tone. Examples of an FRFR include Atomic CLR, Friedman ASM-12, or QSC K12.
This is assuming you really need a power amp/cabinet. These days when playing live, many people just plug their modeler direct into the PA. -------------------- Cyber-industrial music and video animations:
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Mar 18 2016, 04:26 PM |
Ahh, I see. One thing to consider: if you're getting a head, and if the head has an effects loop, then a power amp would be redundant, right?
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Mar 18 2016, 04:48 PM |
Mesa ... http://www.mesaboogie.com/amplifiers/elect...amps/index.html Marshall ... https://marshallamps.com/products/amplifier...ack-power-amps/ ADA, if you can find one ... https://reverb.com/item/300193-ada-microtube-200-power-amp Quilter - not strictly a power amp as it does have some EQ ... http://www.quilterlabs.com/index.php/produ.../tone-block-200 These are the ones most guys use when they're using power amps. They most definitely impart a 'tone' as well as a dynamic punch. *ISP also makes a (considerably cheaper) power amp for guitar ... http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Ste...sZAoaAmkC8P8HAQ The Marshall and Boogie sound great! (I used to own a Mesa 20/20 EL-84 rack power amp). The ADA is pretty good and very light. I've played through Quilter 'amps' and they sound pretty good are very light and powerful. Never played through an ISP amp. I used to own a 50/50 version of that Marshall power amp that was made in the 90's. Awesome power amp! not to mention it looked great in my rack. |
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Mar 18 2016, 04:57 PM |
Oh I didn't even think of that! So I can just run my 11 Rack through the FX loop of the head, which would bypass the head's preamp but still use the power amp, correct? That's right. You probably won't need a separate power amp. -------------------- Cyber-industrial music and video animations:
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Mar 18 2016, 05:12 PM |
Oh I didn't even think of that! So I can just run my 11 Rack through the FX loop of the head, which would bypass the head's preamp but still use the power amp, correct? Yes sir. As I've said, I never played an ISP 'amp' (I dig their decimator noise reduction pedal though). I have used modelers (Line 6) and before that rack pre-amps (ADA) through non-tube power amps (QSC, Crown) and even the power section of a guitar amp (Fender Hot-Rod DeVille, 60 watts, 4-10" spkrs). I personally prefer a dedicated guitar power amp - like the Marshall or Mesa. They have a more dynamic 'feel' to them. Do they actually sound better? IDK? With today's modelers and profilers I'm sure you can 'sound' exactly the same - tube or solid state. I'm old - for me amps are all about 'feel'. The response I literally feel coming back to me. I did try an earlier iteration of the Atomic designed specifically for a POD. It was cool. I liked the 'all-in-one' aspect of it - power amp, spkr cab, port for the POD but it lacked the punch/response dig from tubes. I'm curious about the Freidman ... http://friedmanamplification.com/products/...onitors/asm-12/ He builds really great amps so I'd bet his design is excellent ... and not too pricey. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Mar 18 2016, 05:32 PM |
Look at Matrix power amps, they were designed to be used with modelers and keep the weight of your rig down.
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Mar 23 2016, 08:43 PM |
If you get a AMp/Mesa head you won't need a separate power amp correct If you just get a power amp, you don't need the head. So ti's either or. Sounds like you are going to get a MESA head which is always a grand idea as they are awesome. You can run your 11 rack in the fx loop of the head and turn OFF the cabinet and preamp emulation so that you just get fx from the 11 rack if you like.
Or you can run in to the 11 rack and out to the clean channel on the messa and use it like a tube power amp it will warm up the sound of the 11 which is always a good thing I"m using a old VELOCITY 300 power amp with my 11 rack. It has two knobs (that sort of act like bass and treble) that help it sound better at low volume so you don't have to crank it up. But I rarely use it for recording as I mostly record direct from the guitar or using the 11 rack fx on one track in the daw and recording the dry output on another track. That way I can go back and and plugins or what not and reamp the signal One of the handy things about the 11 rack is that it will let you record two separate tracks at the same time, one with fx one without. Look at Matrix power amps, they were designed to be used with modelers and keep the weight of your rig down. http://uk.matrixamplification.com/ |
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