Fractal Audio Fx8 Options

[AK Rich]

Sorry about that if you're in need of an fx quickly, check out the zoom ms50g as its sort of a joker card among guitar players for quick needs.

Thanks Mertay. I am ok though. I will just continue to use my minimalist stomp box setup like I have been doing all summer. Tube Screamer, Delay, Phase 90, Crybaby and Rockerverb.

Unfortunately, your timing is unlucky. Their production efforts are focused on the newer AX8 right now. The AxeFX is still the flagship, but the FX8 doesn't have very high priority these days. Fractal Audio is a small outfit and they have frustrating idiosyncrasies like this.

Thanks Rammikin. Yeah it sucks. I have this mental image of one guy in a big room assembling fx units with an adjacent room of the same size filled to the ceiling with back orders.

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[Rammikin]

If you don't mind a version 1 FX8, they announced a few days ago they have a few last ones in stock remaining at a close out price. Otherwise, you're probably in for a lengthy wait for version 2.


An by "lengthy", I mean it might be next year before version II is available.

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[AK Rich]

If you don't mind a version 1 FX8, they announced a few days ago they have a few last ones in stock remaining at a close out price. Otherwise, you're probably in for a lengthy wait for version 2.

Good grief! I have to wonder how many folks have bailed on the waiting and just bought something else like a Line 6 or whatever. I think I am just going to continue to hold out and get a unit that is somewhat current and hopefully has any bugs worked out from the previous version.

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[Rammikin]

Yeah, you just had bad luck with your timing. You put yourself on the waitlist shortly before they discontinued the version 1 FX8. They automatically switched you to the version 2 waitlist, but because version 2 isn't available yet, you're now in for a much longer wait.

I'm not aware of any bugs in version 1 and the new features in version 2 are rather modest, so it might be worth considering buying one of those version 1 models, especially since you'll save some money.

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[AK Rich]

Yeah, you just had bad luck with your timing. You put yourself on the waitlist shortly before they discontinued the version 1 FX8. They automatically switched you to the version 2 waitlist, but because version 2 isn't available yet, you're now in for a much longer wait.

I'm not aware of any bugs in version 1 and the new features in version 2 are rather modest, so it might be worth considering buying one of those version 1 models, especially since you'll save some money.

I just checked the Fractal website. It appears that the Mark II version will start shipping sometime in the last quarter of this year. I would hope that by that time I would be close to the top of the waitlist but who knows. It looks like the discontinued version is only $150 less than the Mark II so I don't think I will go for that especially since there are no returns for the discontinued version. Maybe if it was $500 less I would go for it.

http://shop.fractalaudio.com/FX8_Multi_Eff...lboard_s/61.htm

Now I am tossing around the idea of maybe trying to find a used Axe FX at Reverb.com or Ebay.

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[Rammikin]

Buying a used AxeFX can be a good idea. I'll warn you though, people who sell one on ebay/reverb often charge *more* than Fractal Audio does for a new one because....you guessed it...there's no waiting list .

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[Mertay]

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They could at least notify you about this change

Last year I had the chance to play around one of the first axe fx units (can't remember the model but the owner said it was like 10 years old). It had a gazzilion parameters but didn't sound any better than todays vst stuff so I'd say aim for something newer if you want used.

On the other hand, if you don't care for amp sim.s in a processor brands that you mention like line 6 etc. does make sense too (for fx only, personally I'm even convinced with moderate priced boss stuff if the amp is nice real tube based design)

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[AK Rich]

Buying a used AxeFX can be a good idea. I'll warn you though, people who sell one on ebay/reverb often charge *more* than Fractal Audio does for a new one because....you guessed it...there's no waiting list .

Ha! Yeah I noticed. In the end I'll probably just hold out unless maybe one happens to pop up here locally. Having one within my grasp could change the game.

They could at least notify you about this change

Last year I had the chance to play around one of the first axe fx units (can't remember the model but the owner said it was like 10 years old). It had a gazzilion parameters but didn't sound any better than todays vst stuff so I'd say aim for something newer if you want used.

On the other hand, if you don't care for amp sim.s in a processor brands that you mention like line 6 etc. does make sense too (for fx only, personally I'm even convinced with moderate priced boss stuff if the amp is nice real tube based design)

Yeah man! I agree. It's interesting that I had to learn of this situation from Rammikin rather than Fractal. I guess I am supposed to be hovering over their website to find out about such things. I am surprised that the closeout deals were not mentioned to me when I inquired about my waitlist standing.
Although I am not that interested in the amp sims that the Axe Fx offers, I do like that one can record directly out of it. Something I can not do with an FX8.
Anyway, I am not ready to jump ship and go with a Line 6 or something else just yet but that possibility certainly exists.

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[Darius Wave]

I agree with their "no plug-in" policy. I can understand someone want's to be recognizable by 100% of his work, not affected by any unpredictable, additional devices, such as audio interface, audio DSP type etc.

Second thing is....if there would be a plug-in, a lot of people would start to discuss if the physical AXE FX is still needed. We would see posts like "why to buy real one if there is no difference". Why not to use plug-in and Your smarphone, tablet or anything similar. Of course there would be a difference but maybe non-audible for a lot of players. Non mentioning how many people would start to cark the plug-in taking away huge part of current Fractal's income.

These are things I can understand, watching how World is these days

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[Todd Simpson]

This is quite true As soon as they release the plugin version (probably happen eventually tied to ilok or something like that, as it's getting harder to find Tigersharc chips as they are being discontinued) people will start to pirate and crack it. The key is to sell more plugins and make more money than was possible by selling a finite number of units and losing sales by keeping folks on a "wait list".

They are in a bit of a pickle just now. They have a GREAT product but can't make enough to satisfy demand. So some folks just get a Helix or a Kemper or a used axe fx. Each one of those is a lost sale. They don't seem to be scaling up well with the demand curve IMHO. Kemper seems to have done a fine job of scaling up and even expanding their product line while doing so. Line 6 of course make massive amounts of gear so no shortage there. It will be interesting to see how fractal handles all this.

Todd

I agree with their "no plug-in" policy. I can understand someone want's to be recognizable by 100% of his work, not affected by any unpredictable, additional devices, such as audio interface, audio DSP type etc.

Second thing is....if there would be a plug-in, a lot of people would start to discuss if the physical AXE FX is still needed. We would see posts like "why to buy real one if there is no difference". Why not to use plug-in and Your smarphone, tablet or anything similar. Of course there would be a difference but maybe non-audible for a lot of players. Non mentioning how many people would start to cark the plug-in taking away huge part of current Fractal's income.

These are things I can understand, watching how World is these days

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