Todd's Secret Sauce To Achieve The Best Tone

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[http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/DI4000.aspx Link to their web site] (These run about $100)
[http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/DI4000.aspx Link to their web site] (These run about $100)
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'''This is CRUCIAL imho for working with sims.''' You need to hit the front end of a software amp sim pretty hard to get the kind of high gain sound you would from a big amp. Not to say a tubescreamer won't do the trick. It will!!! But, overdrive pedals are very mid range focused and for 7 and 8 string/downtuned stuff, the mids can sometimes get in the way. So for ERG (extended range guitar) stuff, I prefer the DI BOX. For 6 string stuff, I have JOYO/NUX/PRO TONE overdrives (any of which work fine).
'''This is CRUCIAL imho for working with sims.''' You need to hit the front end of a software amp sim pretty hard to get the kind of high gain sound you would from a big amp. Not to say a tubescreamer won't do the trick. It will!!! But, overdrive pedals are very mid range focused and for 7 and 8 string/downtuned stuff, the mids can sometimes get in the way. So for ERG (extended range guitar) stuff, I prefer the DI BOX. For 6 string stuff, I have JOYO/NUX/PRO TONE overdrives (any of which work fine).
But that's not all!!!!!!
But that's not all!!!!!!
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'''SUPER SECRET SAUCE __IPBWIKI_IMG_HTTP__www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif__IPBWIKI_IMG_HTTP_END__ (PRE EQ)'''
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As many folks know, adding an eq before you go to your sim/amp is a game changer. Without cutting some of the lows at the front end, sims can easily sound flubby/boomy/crappy and not very tight. So after the 20db clean boost, I use the EQ on my Interface/Mixer to shave 25% off of 100HZ (the LOW knob is set to 100)
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This creates a very TIGHT djenty sound. So thats the secret to getting your sims/plugin amps to sound spiff IMHO __IPBWIKI_IMG_HTTP__www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_forum/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif__IPBWIKI_IMG_HTTP_END__ Works for me!! :)
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Here are a couple of demos. [https://soundcloud.com/techniqueswithtodd/six-demon-bag-preview-presolo Here is a DJENTY sort of high gain patch]. Notice that it's not flubby/boomy.
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[https://soundcloud.com/techniqueswithtodd/vanhalenish-patch-overloud-th2 This is a VAN HALEN type sound] I built. The preset is in my preset thread in my personal board.

Revision as of 14:03, 31 July 2013


Introduction


I recently spent WADS of money buying a rack full of gear:

Digitech GSP1101 with foot controller
ROCKTRON Chameleon 2000
5 different overdrive boxes to try
Rocktron velocity power amp
Genz Benz 2x12 cab
etc.

And NONE OF IT can come even close to the tone I can get from overloud. IT's just shocking. I thought for sure I could build a live rig with my desired tone it with this gear. Nope. Now I"m thinking of running one of my ipad guitar sims on an effect loop with the gsp 1101.

This has been a serious wake up call as to how much I"ve come to adore the tone I can get out of software vs the tone I can get with gear I know really well and used to think sounded killer. OBVIOUSLY, none of this gear is a KEMPER or AXE FX. But I've used these pieces before and been very happy with results. But...I've been seriously spoiled by overloud/amplitude/guitar rig after finding the secret sauce (adding a 20db boost active direct box, reducing 100hz at the mixer to kill flubby bass, etc.) I'm finding I really miss the software tone when I go to "real" gear that I used to adore.


Direct Box

The direct box is a CHEAP behringer ULTRA DI PRO rack mount, active unit. It has a 20 DB boost on it (the secret sauce is that it's a full range clean boost, it doesn't have a mid range hump like a stomp box so it boosts all frequuencies evenly, from deep bass to high treble)

Link to their web site (These run about $100)

Image:toddss1.jpg

This is CRUCIAL imho for working with sims. You need to hit the front end of a software amp sim pretty hard to get the kind of high gain sound you would from a big amp. Not to say a tubescreamer won't do the trick. It will!!! But, overdrive pedals are very mid range focused and for 7 and 8 string/downtuned stuff, the mids can sometimes get in the way. So for ERG (extended range guitar) stuff, I prefer the DI BOX. For 6 string stuff, I have JOYO/NUX/PRO TONE overdrives (any of which work fine).

But that's not all!!!!!!


SUPER SECRET SAUCE user posted image (PRE EQ)

As many folks know, adding an eq before you go to your sim/amp is a game changer. Without cutting some of the lows at the front end, sims can easily sound flubby/boomy/crappy and not very tight. So after the 20db clean boost, I use the EQ on my Interface/Mixer to shave 25% off of 100HZ (the LOW knob is set to 100)

This creates a very TIGHT djenty sound. So thats the secret to getting your sims/plugin amps to sound spiff IMHO user posted image Works for me!! :)

Image:toddss2.jpg

Here are a couple of demos. Here is a DJENTY sort of high gain patch. Notice that it's not flubby/boomy.

This is a VAN HALEN type sound I built. The preset is in my preset thread in my personal board.

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