Collaboration - Satriani Style Groove, sign up and discussion thread |
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Collaboration - Satriani Style Groove, sign up and discussion thread |
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Apr 10 2009, 07:34 PM |
Hi
Last month we did really good with some neoclassical backing and you learned some new scales. In this one I hope you won't find anything unfamiliar. This is about pentatonics and a couple of different common modes. Actually, Monte asked for Satriani type of backing and I promissed I would do it. The chord progression is very simple: A5 - A pentatonic of your choice E5 - E minor pentatonic these 2 chords are repeated 4 times (16 bars) then you have C5 (2 bars) - Lydian D5 (2 bars) - Mixolydian And again: A5 - A pentatonic of your choice E5 - E minor pentatonic these 2 chords are repeated 2 times (8 bars) Tempo is 180. Your tonal key center is E (minor) and this E5 chord is your resolution in the melody. You can think of it as G major as that's the paralel scale/chord to the E minor. Therefore your C chord will be Lydian and D will be Mixolydian. Please use these 2 chords for these modes, do not stay in pentatonic here. I said that A can be pentatonic of your choice. If you start with A minor pentatonic then go on with that choice on every A5 chord. You can chose to do A dominant pentatonic (1, 2, 3, 5, b7) - something like mixolydian. If you go for this option then please keep it until the end whenever you have that A5. In this case your A5 will sound more (major). You can also use some blues b5 passing notes if you find it interesting. Notice that I resolve on E major riff when I land on the E5 but you can still play E minor pentatonic and it will work. That way you'll sound more in Satriani style I called this collaboration "Satriani style" because the backing reminds of his old known fast grooves like Surfing With The Alien or Crushing Day. But you don't need to play in Satriani style. Play whatever you want just make some nice melody and involve some cool rock licks. There is plenty of space for playing pretty much anything from tapping, picking... you can even play with your boots like Ritchie Blackmore hahaha, but please keep some logical structure so your solo has some compositional quality. The deadline is April 26th (Sunday) - 2 weeks and 2 days. I will be away from 12th until 26th so I won't be able to reply everyday. You can still ask anything you want and I'll do my best to find internet at least every 3rd day. I hope I'll receive some great takes this month See you. ---------------------------------- 1. lcsdds 2. Dexxter 3. kaznie_NL 4. Caelumamittendum 5. Tjchep 6. Rated Htr 7. UncleSkillet 8. enforcer 9. JamesT 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. This post has been edited by Emir Hot: Apr 10 2009, 08:55 PM -------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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Apr 19 2009, 08:15 PM |
Surfing the Alien Nice one Superize!! Yeah you got it right.....It is a Satriani collab..... -------------------- My Gear
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Apr 19 2009, 08:41 PM |
I was gonna wait and post next weekend after I had it cleaned up but I can just re-record it. Maybe this will help anybody who might be stuck on this one. I took a lilttle bit different approach than Emir suggested. On the A5-E5 section I went with "A Ionian and E mixolydian" rather than "A dorian and E minor".....just sounded better to my ear. On the C5-D5 section I went with C lydian and D major pentatonic. Then I went back to "A Ionian and E mixolydian". Let me know what you guys think. Very nice take -------------------- My Gear
Ibanez RG Jackson js30 warrior jackson rr24 Line 6 Spider III amp Line 6 pod xt live Washburn acoustic Youtube Account My bands Myspace |
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Apr 20 2009, 10:13 PM |
took a while for me to get in the groove for this one, anyways I gave it a shot
emir_Satch_collab_Chris_with_BT.mp3 ( 833.83K ) Number of downloads: 274 emir_Satch_collab_Chris_no_BT.mp3 ( 821.33K ) Number of downloads: 182 -------------------- |
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Apr 23 2009, 08:21 AM |
took a while for me to get in the groove for this one, anyways I gave it a shot emir_Satch_collab_Chris_with_BT.mp3 ( 833.83K ) Number of downloads: 274 emir_Satch_collab_Chris_no_BT.mp3 ( 821.33K ) Number of downloads: 182 Wow that was so Satch! -------------------- Wishlist: the world.
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Apr 24 2009, 01:12 PM |
Here's my take! The first one in the list contains some reverb and a pretty strong delay - I finally managed to send the a dry signal separately to my DAW while I monitored the "wet" one, but in this file I exported the tone with the delay and reverb. The other two files contain the dry tone with and without backing. I guess this was one of my most difficult collabs that I participated in... but thanks for the opportunity and special thanks to Monte who requested the backing satriani__collab_berko2.mp3 ( 639.92K ) Number of downloads: 171 satriani_collab_berko_w_BT.mp3 ( 944.41K ) Number of downloads: 173 satriani_collab_berko_noBT.mp3 ( 944.41K ) Number of downloads: 158 |
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Apr 24 2009, 01:26 PM |
took a while for me to get in the groove for this one, anyways I gave it a shot emir_Satch_collab_Chris_with_BT.mp3 ( 833.83K ) Number of downloads: 274 emir_Satch_collab_Chris_no_BT.mp3 ( 821.33K ) Number of downloads: 182 Great work, Chris! Really cool |
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Apr 25 2009, 12:51 PM |
Here's my take.
This post has been edited by Matt23: Apr 25 2009, 05:00 PM
Attached File(s)
satriani_matt23_nobt.mp3 ( 483.61K )
Number of downloads: 138
satriani_matt23_wbt.mp3 ( 673.92K ) Number of downloads: 170 |
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Apr 25 2009, 12:52 PM |
Harmoniiiiiiiiiiics:P
-------------------- Don't just play it. Feel it!
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Apr 26 2009, 04:06 AM |
Ok Emir,
Here's my take. I've been struggling with the sound quality of my final mixes from Sonar. The "clarity" of the mix is much better within Sonar, then no matter what I mix down to even before converting to MP3 (24bit, 44100, or even 32bit 88200) something gets lost. In the resulting wav file, the reverb and delays sound boomy, and I loose "crispness" (probably some highs). Then when I go to MP3, it gets only sligtly worse. It seems likes most of the losses are when going to .wav from Sonar. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. If you have any pointers for final mix, it would be great. As for the playing, I'm not 100% satisfied with this. Partially due to the tone, but also partially because my legato is kind of sloppy sounding. Let me know what I should be working on to clean this up. It doesn't sound too bad when you bury it in chorus, auto-wah, delay and reverb though! 20090425_Satch_Collab_wbt.mp3 ( 1.3MB ) Number of downloads: 177 20090425_Satch_Collab_nobt.mp3 ( 1.3MB ) Number of downloads: 194 20090425_Satch_Collab_nobt_noeff.mp3 ( 1.3MB ) Number of downloads: 140 P.S., I tried to make the one with no effects above a mono mix. Still the size of the file came out the same. I suspect that it is mono, but the same data is present on right and left tracks (so effectively a stereo mp3 file). Would love to have a lesson on that backing track as well. Awesome! Jim. |
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Apr 26 2009, 04:05 PM
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Here ya go Emir....I would have liked to clean it up a little but I am in the middle of switching DAW's so I won't be able to. For your next collab though I should be able to do some step recording instead of having to do everything in one take. Thanks again for doing this backing for me Emir....YOU ROCK!!! \m/\m/
Attached File(s)
Emir_Satch_wBT.mp3 ( 650.94K )
Number of downloads: 139
Emir_Satch_noBT.mp3 ( 650.94K ) Number of downloads: 115 |
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