Boogie - Collaboration, discussion and upload thread
Emir Hot
Feb 6 2009, 04:46 PM
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Hi

Welcome to my second collaboration. This time we have BOOGIE.

The chord progression:

A - 8 bars (minor/major pentatonic, blues scale or mixolydian scale)
D - 4 bars (better option is mixolydian or stay in A pentatonic)
A - 4 bars (minor/major pentatonic, blues scale or mixolydian scale)
G - 1 bar (Major scale, major pentatonic - lydian and mixolydian will also work)
D - 1 bar (mixolydian)
A - 1 bar (minor/major pentatonic, blues scale or mixolydian scale)
outro fill in E - (mixolydian)


Attention everybody !!!

You have to record 2 separate takes. Please watch the intro video about all the details.



There is no limit for participants. Anyone can play.

The deadline is 20. February (two weeks).

I hope you will have fun with this one and I wish you happy and great playing smile.gif

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Attached File  BOOGIE_Emir__s_take.mp3 ( 871.84K ) Number of downloads: 286
Attached File  boogie_backing_200bpm.mp3 ( 878.37K ) Number of downloads: 556
Attached File  Boggie_collab_intro_video.wmv ( 49.39MB ) Number of downloads: 418
 


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ErikEklund
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Really cool backingtrack, Im in smile.gif

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I would like to try...

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Gotta love the boogie!

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QUOTE (Jesse @ Feb 6 2009, 05:04 PM) *
Gotta love the boogie!


Yeah boogie is cool. I think that meant you want to sign up smile.gif

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Will certainly try to produce something before the 20th, but not sure whether I am going to make it (too many other things going on currently). If I did not submit by the 20th, just let it go smile.gif

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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Feb 6 2009, 06:11 PM) *
Yeah boogie is cool. I think that meant you want to sign up smile.gif

I added you.


Didn't when I posted, but I saw your intro vid, and now I want to join!


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After the great job you did last collab, Emir, I think you can count on +100 participants now, haha... laugh.gif

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I want to try this again if I may. wink.gif

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QUOTE (Velvet Roger @ Feb 6 2009, 05:14 PM) *
Will certainly try to produce something before the 20th, but not sure whether I am going to make it (too many other things going on currently). If I did not submit by the 20th, just let it go smile.gif


Ok Velvet, try your best and if you can't don't worry. Thanks anyway smile.gif

QUOTE (Jesse @ Feb 6 2009, 05:16 PM) *
Didn't when I posted, but I saw your intro vid, and now I want to join!


Your guitar tone rules... it's dirty but yet clean biggrin.gif GO TRIPLETS GO, TRIPLETS BE GOOD!


Thanks smile.gif I use amplitube 2. Give this one a go if you wanna play some cool blues/rock licks.

QUOTE (ztevie @ Feb 6 2009, 05:45 PM) *
After the great job you did last collab, Emir, I think you can count on +100 participants now, haha... laugh.gif


Thanks ztevie smile.gif I don't think it will be more than 25 anyway. Even with 25 I need 5 days to record all the comments. This collab is actually not getting a huge response as the last one. I remember I had 15 people in just 1 hour after I posted the thread. They might be worried about all the scales I suggested in the 1st post smile.gif But nothing really to worry about, those are just suggestions. This track is pretty much straight forward rock/bluesy kind of style, just a faster type of it.

QUOTE (Toroso @ Feb 6 2009, 05:45 PM) *
I want to try this again if I may. wink.gif


Sure Toroso, thanks for coming back. I will give you a special attention. Got some stuff ready for you to help you. We'll talk tomorrow as we agreed smile.gif

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QUOTE (kaznie_NL @ Feb 6 2009, 06:53 PM) *
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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Feb 6 2009, 07:51 PM) *
Thanks ztevie smile.gif I don't think it will be more than 25 anyway. Even with 25 I need 5 days to record all the comments. This collab is actually not getting a huge response as the last one. I remember I had 15 people in just 1 hour after I posted the thread. They might be worried about all the scales I suggested in the 1st post smile.gif But nothing really to worry about, those are just suggestions. This track is pretty much straight forward rock/bluesy kind of style, just a faster type of it.


I think you might not have so many because there's a lot going on right now. Muris just started 2 collabs and 1 competition. February months 3-level competition was just announced the other day... And some more stuff also just started.
This is very straight-forward stuff, I agree. It's faster, but it's really very basic, so noone should be afraid trying...
It can be a challenge to make a solo stick out I think, be more interesting so to speak. Let's see if the participants can find some way to escape the "normal" soloing for this kind of stuff and make it a little bit special.

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QUOTE (ztevie @ Feb 6 2009, 07:11 PM) *
Let's see if the participants can find some way to escape the "normal" soloing for this kind of stuff and make it a little bit special.


That's what I would love to see smile.gif

QUOTE (Tolek @ Feb 6 2009, 07:14 PM) *
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Great to see your new collaboration up and running.
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Feb 6 2009, 08:52 PM) *
Great to see your new collaboration up and running.
By the way, Instructors 80's rock collaboration is posted now. I know you wanted comments so bad Emir, go check it out HERE


Hahaha yes it's really bad smile.gif Thank you for the comment, it's actually exactly as you wrote. Thanks for that.

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really fun backing, loved the second half! biggrin.gif

Thought I`d get this out quick in case I dont get time another night, hopefully I got all the instructions correct *fingers crossed* smile.gif

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QUOTE (Smells @ Feb 7 2009, 12:01 AM) *
really fun backing, loved the second half! biggrin.gif

Thought I`d get this out quick in case I dont get time another night, hopefully I got all the instructions correct *fingers crossed* smile.gif

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no effects but drive on these two smile.gif


great smile.gif This is how everybody should send tracks. Haven't checked your signal yet but I believe it's ok. Also hope that solo guitar tracks are mono. Now I am listening on laptop. Thanks


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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Feb 7 2009, 12:14 AM) *
great smile.gif This is how everybody should send tracks. Haven't checked your signal yet but I believe it's ok. Also hope that solo guitar tracks are mono. Now I am listening on laptop. Thanks


yes they are recorded in mono smile.gif

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I am already in Mirus's Fusion collab but want to do yours also. 2 week time limit is the same for both so that's going to be tough.

I will try really hard to upload a track but I only get to play once or twice a week.

I will start with both collabs tomorrow.

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yes they are recorded in mono smile.gif


Excellent smile.gif The first take and all done properly like I explained. I hope it wasn't a difficult task. It's just 3 things to remember. A take like this is ready to be mixed without spending time for any editing before that. Well done

QUOTE (UncleSkillet @ Feb 7 2009, 12:21 AM) *
I am already in Mirus's Fusion collab but want to do yours also. 2 week time limit is the same for both so that's going to be tough.

I will try really hard to upload a track but I only get to play once or twice a week.

I will start with both collabs tomorrow.


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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Feb 7 2009, 12:22 AM) *
Excellent smile.gif The first take and all done properly like I explained. I hope it wasn't a diffuclt task. It's just 3 things to remember. A take like this is ready to be mixed without spending time for any editing before that. Well done


not difficult at all smile.gif

just made sure I watched your vid first, perfectly clear smile.gif

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Hey Emir, would a Cry Baby Wah pedal be ok with out delay and reverb?

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Emir,
I have been busier than usual and at the moment only have time to finish up Muris's "play like me" competition. I already had to bow out of his fusion collab. mad.gif I'm in on your next one for sure though. smile.gif I'm serious, I might have to cut back to a part time job to keep up with all the collabs and competitions around here. laugh.gif laugh.gif Look forward to everybody's takes and Emir's comments. Rock on Guys!!!

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ill hit it!!! i have time!!!!!!

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QUOTE (Smells @ Feb 7 2009, 02:01 AM) *
really fun backing, loved the second half! biggrin.gif

Thought I`d get this out quick in case I dont get time another night, hopefully I got all the instructions correct *fingers crossed* smile.gif

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no effects but drive on these two smile.gif


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QUOTE (UncleSkillet @ Feb 7 2009, 01:49 AM) *
Hey Emir, would a Cry Baby Wah pedal be ok with out delay and reverb?


Yes you can record with wah pedal. Those effects I can't copy. This applies for slide as well.

QUOTE (Col Roberts @ Feb 7 2009, 01:00 AM) *
I'll give it a go.


You're in smile.gif

QUOTE (lcsdds @ Feb 7 2009, 02:47 AM) *
Emir,
I have been busier than usual and at the moment only have time to finish up Muris's "play like me" competition. I already had to bow out of his fusion collab. mad.gif I'm in on your next one for sure though. smile.gif I'm serious, I might have to cut back to a part time job to keep up with all the collabs and competitions around here. laugh.gif laugh.gif Look forward to everybody's takes and Emir's comments. Rock on Guys!!!


No problem Monte. You are always welcome. Visit us here sometimes ang give some feedback smile.gif

QUOTE (Marc_Maiden @ Feb 7 2009, 05:27 AM) *
ill hit it!!! i have time!!!!!!

ill hit it!!! i have time!!!!!!


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QUOTE (Boson @ Feb 7 2009, 08:06 AM) *
omg I wish I could do that!

I'd like to give this a try Emir, so please add me.

If I dont make it by 20th go ahead without me. As a beginner it still takes me a long time to come up with something Im happy with but Im sure I learn a lot along the way.

Thanks for organising this. biggrin.gif


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Emir I might join this but not with 100% certainty, if you don't mind ?

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Emir I might join this but not with 100% certainty, if you don't mind ?

I want to hear your comments on my take - its not fair for me to comment your playing, you should do the same for mine smile.gif


Sure Pedja. It's great that we have an instructor here. I think there are many places where you can do some jazzy licks. Thanks for joining smile.gif

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I'm in wink.gif


Added, thanks for coming back smile.gif

QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Feb 7 2009, 02:53 PM) *
I'd sure like to join in as well!


Added as well, cheers smile.gif

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oh yeah i forgot, ive been playing guitar for 4 years


Thanks Marc

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I have been playing for 4 or 5 months. Since September 2008.


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cool new stuff! I would like to join but I've never played boogie,
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Hi Emir,

cool new stuff! I would like to join but I've never played boogie,
I hope this won't end up in a disaster! mellow.gif

cheers strat


Come on in man smile.gif This is a simple stuff. Play some blues/rock licks and you'll be fine. I added you. Watch my intro video there are some tips about scales you can use.

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Oops, almost missed this thread ohmy.gif I'm in! smile.gif


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Here's my take.

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Also what does all this mean. Recording a dry take? With no effects? How do you get it to sound how we want without effects and without being us? Also how do you record in mono and do you record left speaker or right speaker or does it not matter? I'm completely lost as normally I just dial in my tone and record a take with and without backing.

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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 10 2009, 11:56 AM) *
Also what does all this mean. Recording a dry take? With no effects? How do you get it to sound how we want without effects and without being us? Also how do you record in mono and do you record left speaker or right speaker or does it not matter? I'm completely lost as normally I just dial in my tone and record a take with and without backing.


He want everything dry and will add effects by himself to make it fit in the mix in a better way. I understand that you want your sound with effects to come through. What you can do is record it dry in the track without a backing, and then on the backing you add your effects so he hear what you want it to sound like tonewise...
Even if you record mono you will have sound in both left and right channel. I don't know what software you're using, but in Cubase, even if I record mono I will have sound in both without adjusting settings. Stereo recording is only necessary if you for example want delay bouncing differently in left and right channel (ping-pong delay maybe?). And maybe if you use Pod X3 with 2 tones together left/right, I think?
Guitar is a mono instrument anyway so recorded dry it doesn't matter. You will have smaller files this way...

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ok cheers. I will give this a go smile.gif I sound awful with a dry tone lol tongue.gif

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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 10 2009, 12:29 PM) *
ok cheers. I will give this a go smile.gif I sound awful with a dry tone lol tongue.gif


I know what you mean, haha... It is really dificult to get the same feel when playing dry. With delay and reverb I get loads more of sustain and hang in the tone, so recording dry will make me have to dig into the strings more and play cleaner...

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QUOTE (ztevie @ Feb 10 2009, 11:41 AM) *
I know what you mean, haha... It is really dificult to get the same feel when playing dry. With delay and reverb I get loads more of sustain and hang in the tone, so recording dry will make me have to dig into the strings more and play cleaner...

Could be worse lol. Imagine The Edge from U2 playing without effects. Like the Bill Bailey impression biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 10 2009, 10:56 AM) *
Also what does all this mean. Recording a dry take? With no effects? How do you get it to sound how we want without effects and without being us? Also how do you record in mono and do you record left speaker or right speaker or does it not matter? I'm completely lost as normally I just dial in my tone and record a take with and without backing.


ztevie has already explained this but I would just add that you can put your effects on the insert channel in your DAW. That way you can hear while recording but the effect will not be recorded unless you tick that option in the export dialog box (window).

QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 10 2009, 11:48 AM) *
Could be worse lol. Imagine The Edge from U2 playing without effects. Like the Bill Bailey impression biggrin.gif


Believe me that the sound engineer makes these effects during mixing. His guitar signal is as dry as possible during recording but he can hear the effects while playing. When they play live that's something different.

edit: When I say dry signal, I don't mean you should switch the distortion off. Only delays and reverbs if you have any

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I've worked two days straight on this collab, I've yet to come up with anything I remotely like hahahaha.
Plus I know Emir is serious about critiquing these takes so I want to put my best foot forward so to speak...

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QUOTE (Col Roberts @ Feb 10 2009, 10:48 AM) *
Here's my take.

Attached File  Boogie_ColR_Mix.mp3 ( 1.03MB ) Number of downloads: 163

Attached File  Boogie_ColR_1_NOBT.mp3 ( 1.08MB ) Number of downloads: 136

Attached File  Boogie_ColR_2_NOBT.mp3 ( 1.08MB ) Number of downloads: 131


Part 1 recorded dry, Part 2 recorded with just a little distortion, both in mono.

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...........Classic Reverb (Small Club)
...........Classic Delay 100ms, no feedback
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Yeah, using software effects is an option of course...
But I like to use my POD xt for all effects and everything, so I don't need to put extra load on the PC. IN the POD it's possible to reamp though, which is neat... That means I can record with full effects and everything and hear that, but only the dry, clean guitar signal gets recorded into the track(not even distortio or amp simulation or anything gets recorded). Then I can put the recording on a loop, and sit and adjust everything in the pod while the totally clean track gets played through the pod again. I can then rerecord that dry signal with my adjusted effect/amp/whatever. So basically I can change my mind a million times about the sound and never play that same piece again.

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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Feb 10 2009, 01:19 PM) *
Thank you.

How can delay be with no feedback? If I set feedback to 0 you won't hear any delay.

That's what I was thinking biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (fatb0t @ Feb 10 2009, 02:19 PM) *
I've worked two days straight on this collab, I've yet to come up with anything I remotely like hahahaha.
Plus I know Emir is serious about critiquing these takes so I want to put my best foot forward so to speak...


Yeah, you can't cheat this guy biggrin.gif
If something is done halfhearted you will proably hear about it in the review..

EDIT: Just improvised over this piece for a while. Reeeeally bluesy stuff coming outta my fingers here.. Nice! I'll keep it that way, I think.? Simple and without overplaying...

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QUOTE (ztevie @ Feb 10 2009, 11:25 AM) *
Stereo recording is only necessary if you for example want delay bouncing differently in left and right channel (ping-pong delay maybe?). And maybe if you use Pod X3 with 2 tones together left/right, I think?


Even in this case you record mono. That's why you have L and R output. You arm 2 tracks for recording in your software and you record them simultaneously L and R both mono then you pan them. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to separate them if I want to change anything either on L or R side. For this collaboration that wouldn't be necessary as we are not producing million dollars record but in a proper studio they would record you separately.

I am not asking to send me the track without distortion. I don't have the same equipment as you so I can't recreate your original distorted sound. I am only talking about delays because if you have too much of it then it might not fit in the mix properly and I am not able to remove it.

Thanks for earlier explaination smile.gif

QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 10 2009, 10:56 AM) *
Also how do you record in mono and do you record left speaker or right speaker or does it not matter?


Let me explain this. Mono signal is not only L or R channel. Mono is when you bounce both L and R into one channel. So either you listen L or R you will hear the same thing, no panning works in mono. Just open your track for recording and set it to be a mono track. You will still hear your sound in both speakers but only one wave form will be recorded instead of two (L and R). Then I can pan your guitar in the mix somewhere and together with other panned instruments I will produce final mastered stereo track. I hope you understand this. Ask me if you have any problems. I can do a video tutorial about this if that helps.

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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Feb 11 2009, 12:19 AM) *
How can delay be with no feedback? If I set feedback to 0 you won't hear any delay.


Hi Emir,
With the VST delay I am using, if delay is set to some value and feedback is set to 0, I am getting the delay effect.
I looked at the help on delay effect and it showed this: "The Feedback parameter allows you to send some of the delayed audio back into the delay effect, so it will play again after the delay period. This can be used to create a long series of echoes."
Anyhow, if you need to add a feedback value I'll leave it to your judgement.

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QUOTE (Col Roberts @ Feb 11 2009, 05:38 AM) *
Hi Emir,
With the VST delay I am using, if delay is set to some value and feedback is set to 0, I am getting the delay effect.
I looked at the help on delay effect and it showed this: "The Feedback parameter allows you to send some of the delayed audio back into the delay effect, so it will play again after the delay period. This can be used to create a long series of echoes."
Anyhow, if you need to add a feedback value I'll leave it to your judgement.


Ok I understand. It's a bit strange for delay to work like that but OK. I heard your take and I think I know how to get that sound. Thanks

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Hello Emir. How are you? I want to collaborate. I´m in!

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Hello Emir. How are you? I want to collaborate. I´m in!


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Hey Emir smile.gif

Do you have room for one more? Ill would like to give it a shot, and see how it goes.

Also i just want to make sure i get this right. I know you mentioned no effects like delay etc.. I use Guitar Rig in Pro Tools to record with. And load that as a effect on the track so i can get distortion etc. Is that ok? Or do you want me to just mic my amp and record raw distoreted and clean sound like that? I prefer to use Guitar Rig because if i turn up my Marshall amp where i want it its going to destroy my whole neighborhod. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (Nermin @ Feb 11 2009, 07:01 PM) *
Hey Emir smile.gif

Do you have room for one more? Ill would like to give it a shot, and see how it goes.

Also i just want to make sure i get this right. I know you mentioned no effects like delay etc.. I use Guitar Rig in Pro Tools to record with. And load that as a effect on the track so i can get distortion etc. Is that ok? Or do you want me to just mic my amp and record raw distoreted and clean sound like that? I prefer to use Guitar Rig because if i turn up my Marshall amp where i want it its going to destroy my whole neighborhod. biggrin.gif


Hi

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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Feb 11 2009, 03:40 PM) *
Hi

Yes you can play, we have a place for you smile.gif You can use your Guitar Rig but please switch off delays and reverbs. Anything else is ok.

Cheers

p.s. Where are you from mate?


Ok i anderstand now.
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Ok i anderstand now.
I am from Bosnia ( Stolac) . Where you from? smile.gif


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Emir I have to pull out from your collab. You know I had trouble with my computer, now I have new one and need to catch up with my collaboration and lessons. If I manage to pull it all off I might record take for you but no promises !

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Emir I have to pull out from your collab. You know I had trouble with my computer, now I have new one and need to catch up with my collaboration and lessons. If I manage to pull it all off I might record take for you but no promises !

Sorry man !


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Hi Emir! I'll give this one a shot.
I was a little worried about making sure I could finish Muris's Lydian collab. But now that that's done, I think I can focus on this for nine days.

Killer backing. I'll do my best.

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QUOTE (JamesT @ Feb 12 2009, 03:54 AM) *
Hi Emir! I'll give this one a shot.
I was a little worried about making sure I could finish Muris's Lydian collab. But now that that's done, I think I can focus on this for nine days.

Killer backing. I'll do my best.

Thanks,
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Ok, let me in...I'll see if I can furfill the deadline

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Hi Guys

I have uploaded my take on this backing track. You can find it in the first post of this thread. I am doing a boogie lesson for GMC so this will be my solo. You don't need to play this fast. This take is just for the lesson. However if you can produce something similar then you are very welcome to upload it smile.gif

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That was very tastefull indeed Emir, will make for a great lesson too. Plenty of energy in that one!

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Wonderful take emir, looking foward to the lesson

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Thanks guys smile.gif I am glad if you like it. There are some cool rock licks. You can pick them when the lesson is published. I am now testing new video format. We all have to move to a big player.

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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Feb 12 2009, 07:03 PM) *
Hi Guys

I have uploaded my take on this backing track. You can find it in the first post of this thread. I am doing a boogie lesson for GMC so this will be my solo. You don't need to play this fast. This take is just for the lesson. However if you can produce something similar then you are very welcome to upload it smile.gif

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Awesome take Emir!! You are such a tasteful player. You sound like you have picking chops to spare, can I have some!! laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Feb 12 2009, 06:09 PM) *
Awesome take Emir!! You are such a tasteful player. You sound like you have picking chops to spare, can I have some!! laugh.gif laugh.gif


Yeah I can give you some smile.gif You can have this hybrid stuff over D7 smile.gif

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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Feb 12 2009, 07:03 PM) *
Hi Guys

I have uploaded my take on this backing track. You can find it in the first post of this thread. I am doing a boogie lesson for GMC so this will be my solo. You don't need to play this fast. This take is just for the lesson. However if you can produce something similar then you are very welcome to upload it smile.gif

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OK, so now my self confidence went down to bottom floor, the elevator won't work and the stairs are blocked, i'm stuck down here... mellow.gif wink.gif

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QUOTE (ztevie @ Feb 12 2009, 06:47 PM) *
OK, so now my self confidence went down to bottom floor, the elevator won't work and the stairs are blocked, i'm stuck down here... mellow.gif wink.gif


hahah no man, don't tell me that smile.gif

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QUOTE (ztevie @ Feb 12 2009, 01:47 PM) *
OK, so now my self confidence went down to bottom floor, the elevator won't work and the stairs are blocked, i'm stuck down here... mellow.gif wink.gif



That's why I never listen to anyone's upload until I upload mine. I got enough problems as it is! ohmy.gif

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Emir I want to re join your collab. I will try to record something now and post it here.
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Feb 13 2009, 04:20 PM) *
Emir I want to re join your collab. I will try to record something now and post it here.
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Ok Emir, here's my stuff... Hope I got everything right regarding your instructions.. Should be!?

Please add reverb/delay as you please. I took it off from the original tone, and I didn't include it into the version with the backing either. So the backingtrack solos might appear very dry, but... I think I trust you more than myself to find the right amount of effects. wink.gif

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QUOTE (ztevie @ Feb 15 2009, 12:42 PM) *
Ok Emir, here's my stuff... Hope I got everything right regarding your instructions.. Should be!?

Please add reverb/delay as you please. I took it off from the original tone, and I didn't include it into the version with the backing either. So the backingtrack solos might appear very dry, but... I think I trust you more than myself to find the right amount of effects. wink.gif


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Hey Emir.

This deadline is a bit further away, but as I wrote in Muris' collab, I'm not sure I'm able to record anything. I haven't been doing all too well and I'm just trying to get my head above water again, spending time with my girlfriend, when I'm not at work. I cannot promise a recording. I'm really sorry about it, Emir!

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Hey Emir.

This deadline is a bit further away, but as I wrote in Muris' collab, I'm not sure I'm able to record anything. I haven't been doing all too well and I'm just trying to get my head above water again, spending time with my girlfriend, when I'm not at work. I cannot promise a recording. I'm really sorry about it, Emir!


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Im having a very busy time, so im sorry to say i cant participate in your collab. sad.gif Awesome backing and all, but to much going on atm. sad.gif

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QUOTE (Sondre @ Feb 16 2009, 11:43 PM) *
Im having a very busy time, so im sorry to say i cant participate in your collab. sad.gif Awesome backing and all, but to much going on atm. sad.gif


What can I say? Pretty much the same as in the previous post. You know you are always welcome back smile.gif

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Hi guys.

How is it going with this collab? I have only received a couple of takes by now. You have 3 more days for upload.

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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Feb 17 2009, 02:11 PM) *
Hi guys.

How is it going with this collab? I have only received a couple of takes by now. You have 3 more days for upload.

I have just uploaded a video of my take. You can find it in the first post of this thread. This will be my next GMC lesson.

If you have problems with anything about recording/playing you can ask here.



3 days! ohmy.gif Yikes! Emir, I'm working out of town this week with no guitar. I get home Thursday, so I'll see what I can get done.

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As I already was afraid of, I won't make it in time Emir. Sorry about that, will surely like to join next time again.

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