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Hey Scott! Welcome to your very own personal mentoring thread wink.gif please tell me a bit about your goals and musical knowledge so far smile.gif and we can rock!

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hi mate, still working on that alt picking lesson, I'll probably be able to get another recording this week for you to check over, Im starting to get through it without any obvious mistakes so hopefully Its a bit closer to the mark.
In the meantime I was hoping you would cast your ears over this soundcloud file. Basically I was just mucking around with a bass and came up with a riff similar to a really cool song by 'Unida', anyways I thought I'd just add to it and try to come up with something in their style, just for the hell of it cool.gif

Its just a short riff, maybe an intro type of thing, but it posed a few questions for me.

I assumed the bass line is a D or D minor progression, so with the guitar which comes in at 0.36 I just played notes from a D chord, I wanted to be a bit more interesting but I dont know which chords or notes I can play over the progression. It turns out I dont really know any interesting chords at all!

How would you go about writing this type of piece, would you look at all the possible chords which go with the progression and then pick out notes or do you know straight away which notes you can play over any given progression?

should I be looking at triads or just basic chord theory huh.gif

https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/unida-ish

ps, this is the Unida track which I was using as inspiration, if you fancy a listen - Last Day

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Don't over think it mate biggrin.gif I think you did a very good job here - it sounds like Tool or APC to me, which is pretty darn good biggrin.gif

When I write something, I NEVER think in terms of theory - the process goes like this:

- play what you hear in your head
- record
- develop by using other already existing parts which you can adapt to the context or, by playing something else that you hear in your head
- polish, by using theory - what goes well with what you have? What can you use, change, add to spice things up?

That's pretty much what I do smile.gif What do you hear in your head next, for this one?

QUOTE (bleez @ Feb 3 2014, 10:17 PM) *
hi mate, still working on that alt picking lesson, I'll probably be able to get another recording this week for you to check over, Im starting to get through it without any obvious mistakes so hopefully Its a bit closer to the mark.
In the meantime I was hoping you would cast your ears over this soundcloud file. Basically I was just mucking around with a bass and came up with a riff similar to a really cool song by 'Unida', anyways I thought I'd just add to it and try to come up with something in their style, just for the hell of it cool.gif

Its just a short riff, maybe an intro type of thing, but it posed a few questions for me.

I assumed the bass line is a D or D minor progression, so with the guitar which comes in at 0.36 I just played notes from a D chord, I wanted to be a bit more interesting but I dont know which chords or notes I can play over the progression. It turns out I dont really know any interesting chords at all!

How would you go about writing this type of piece, would you look at all the possible chords which go with the progression and then pick out notes or do you know straight away which notes you can play over any given progression?

should I be looking at triads or just basic chord theory huh.gif

https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/unida-ish

ps, this is the Unida track which I was using as inspiration, if you fancy a listen - Last Day

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 4 2014, 08:30 AM) *
When I write something, I NEVER think in terms of theory - the process goes like this:

- play what you hear in your head
- record
- develop by using other already existing parts which you can adapt to the context or, by playing something else that you hear in your head
- polish, by using theory - what goes well with what you have? What can you use, change, add to spice things up?

Nice smile.gif I took that approach tonight and stopped thinking about my lack of theory, just played it through and tried to go with the flow cool.gif

I altered the notey bit and added a simple melody part, what do reckon to it?

https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/unida-ish-2

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QUOTE (bleez @ Feb 4 2014, 09:23 PM) *
Nice smile.gif I took that approach tonight and stopped thinking about my lack of theory, just played it through and tried to go with the flow cool.gif

I altered the notey bit and added a simple melody part, what do reckon to it?

https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/unida-ish-2


The wah theme needs a delay effect over it to add spaciness biggrin.gif and if you place an inspired vocal line - you got an awesome premise for a good tune! biggrin.gif What say you?

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 5 2014, 08:44 AM) *
The wah theme needs a delay effect over it to add spaciness biggrin.gif and if you place an inspired vocal line - you got an awesome premise for a good tune! biggrin.gif What say you?


good call smile.gif I picked a couple of the notes a bit too hard and 'twangy' so I'll re-do that part and add some delay. cheers.

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QUOTE (bleez @ Feb 5 2014, 01:03 PM) *
good call smile.gif I picked a couple of the notes a bit too hard and 'twangy' so I'll re-do that part and add some delay. cheers.


Ah, well, I didn't want to go THAT far as in re-recording - just the delay would've done the trick for me wink.gif

Can you sing, mate?

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 6 2014, 07:25 AM) *
Can you sing, mate?

hmmm its debatable! I try sing a bit, Theres a couple of acoustic biffy clyro songs which I practice, sometimes it sounds ok-ish mellow.gif but I wouldnt go as far as saying I could sing!

I played around with the track last night, put in that delay and added a little bit, got a new riff / melody at the end.
https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/u4

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QUOTE (bleez @ Feb 6 2014, 08:24 AM) *
hmmm its debatable! I try sing a bit, Theres a couple of acoustic biffy clyro songs which I practice, sometimes it sounds ok-ish mellow.gif but I wouldnt go as far as saying I could sing!

I played around with the track last night, put in that delay and added a little bit, got a new riff / melody at the end.
https://soundcloud.com/bleez666/u4


Hehe - why not try some vocal ideas man? I think that instrumentally it's good enough at this point to lay down some vocals on it smile.gif

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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Feb 6 2014, 09:18 AM) *
Hehe - why not try some vocal ideas man? I think that instrumentally it's good enough at this point to lay down some vocals on it smile.gif

biggrin.gif I'll give it a go! thanks dude.

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- Cosmin Lupu   Bleez's Mentoring Thread   Mar 6 2012, 11:17 AM
- - bleez   hey dude, that hand sync lesson. Im playing it ( a...   Jul 26 2013, 10:36 PM
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- - bleez   so this was based on my assumption that I had to p...   Jul 27 2013, 04:40 PM
- - Cosmin Lupu   Sounds right to me man - 6 notes between each clic...   Jul 28 2013, 03:06 PM
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- - Cosmin Lupu   Can I see a video at 70% please? In this way, reco...   Jul 29 2013, 11:32 AM
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- - bleez   hey dude, I got a recording tonight at 60bpm of th...   Aug 5 2013, 11:23 PM
- - Cosmin Lupu   Hey matey! I will make a movie for ya regardin...   Aug 6 2013, 09:03 AM
- - bleez   thanks mate. I'll try that approach, I can see...   Aug 7 2013, 07:55 PM
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- - Cosmin Lupu   Hey mate - the one thing that you can do - the one...   Aug 22 2013, 12:53 PM
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