Interval Question
Phil66
Nov 12 2018, 10:03 PM
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Hello folks,

Can you tell me what the interval is in the first one please, I find it sounds very very sad if played slowly, either individual notes or letting the first note ring. Is the interval the same in the second TAB? I can't get my head around it as it's the same notes but one going down to A and one going up to A. The second one I still find sad but not as sad as the first, kind of like having a glimmer of hope but the sadness is still there. I hope this makes sense.

Thank you.

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Phil66
Jan 2 2019, 10:55 PM
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Now I'm confused lol. It's hard to explain things sometimes isn't it? I often struggle to explain things.

Thanks for trying buddy wink.gif

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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 2 2019, 10:55 PM) *
Now I'm confused lol. It's hard to explain things sometimes isn't it? I often struggle to explain things.

Thanks for trying buddy wink.gif

I'm sorry for complicating things sad.gif

As Others already explained, a Major triad (basic Major chord) consists of a Major 3rd + Minor 3rd (in that order) and Minor triad (basic Minor chord) consists of a Minor 3rd + Major 3rd.

A half step = 1 fret. Major 3rd is 4 half steps and Minor 3rd is 3 half steps. The first note of a chord is the Root. When you combine Major and Minor 3rd's, you get 7 half steps. 7 half steps equal a 5th.

In the example I used, G is the Root. Because it's G Major, there has to be a Major 3rd followed by a Minor 3rd. That means you count 4 half steps from the Root (on the diagram map it's marked as "3") and that note is B. Then you count 3 more half steps (from B, not G) and you get a 5th (marked as "5") and that note is D. It's exactly a G Major - it's notes are G - B - D).

Then, in my example, there is another G. So, the pattern repeats.

About the sad feeling, someone told me that descending notes (in pitch) generally create sad mood. Especially when you use a Minor scale. I guess if you reverse it, ascending notes should sound somehow happier. However, I don't think either of the intervals you posted sound sad.

I hope that clears up anything I said before smile.gif

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Jan 3 2019, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE (Adam M @ Jan 3 2019, 11:06 AM) *
I'm sorry for complicating things sad.gif

About the sad feeling, someone told me that descending notes (in pitch) generally create sad mood. Especially when you use a Minor scale. I guess if you reverse it, ascending notes should sound somehow happier. However, I don't think either of the intervals you posted sound sad.

I hope that clears up anything I said before smile.gif


It's not you complicating things buddy, I just need that light bulb moment to hit me.

They both sound sad to me, I think because, as you pointed out, going down in pitch can sound sad. These notes only sound sad to me when played in the order of the tab. If I play them as a double stop they don't. So long as I play one after the other in the TAB order they sound sad, even if I let the first note carry on ringing.

I guess this relates to my other thread about creative expression, and how to convey your feelings to others. I'll be playing what I think is sad and everyone else will be thinking I'm a happy bunny laugh.gif

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Phil

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- Phil66   Interval Question   Nov 12 2018, 10:03 PM
- - Phil66   I'm guessing the interval will be different go...   Nov 12 2018, 11:21 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   Is there a gap string in between both of those? So...   Nov 13 2018, 03:42 AM
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- - Phil66   Thanks Todd, Therein lies my lack of theory knowl...   Nov 13 2018, 08:39 AM
- - Kristofer Dahl   -----------| -----------| -----------| -14--------...   Nov 13 2018, 09:33 AM
- - Caelumamittendum   Yup, down a fourth, up a fifth in the first one. ...   Nov 13 2018, 09:57 AM
- - klasaine   +1 to all of the above. As for the pensive v. hop...   Nov 13 2018, 04:06 PM
- - Phil66   Thanks folks, So the first one you count E D C B ...   Nov 13 2018, 07:36 PM
- - Phil66   As promised above, (see post immediately above thi...   Nov 13 2018, 08:50 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   As it's just a couple of notes, it's sound...   Nov 13 2018, 10:08 PM
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- - Phil66   I know what you're saying Todd but to me those...   Nov 13 2018, 10:24 PM
- - Caelumamittendum   I guess some intervals do have different mood or c...   Nov 13 2018, 10:27 PM
- - Phil66   No disrespect Ben but why do you need to know if t...   Nov 13 2018, 11:07 PM
- - Caelumamittendum   Well, what I'm trying to say is that of course...   Nov 14 2018, 01:58 AM
- - Phil66   I understand what you'e saying 100% buddy. I m...   Nov 14 2018, 08:30 AM
- - MonkeyDAthos   Tbh I think you are getting too lock up in the fac...   Nov 14 2018, 09:44 AM
|- - Phil66   QUOTE (MonkeyDAthos @ Nov 14 2018, 09:44 ...   Nov 14 2018, 10:10 AM
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- - Caelumamittendum   Never mind this anyway. Longer post when I get hom...   Nov 14 2018, 12:57 PM
|- - Phil66   QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Nov 14 2018, 12...   Nov 14 2018, 01:30 PM
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- - Caelumamittendum   Okay, I try again! I was writing something but...   Nov 14 2018, 02:41 PM
- - Phil66   Thanks Ben, It did help a little, I need to dig o...   Nov 14 2018, 08:54 PM
|- - Caelumamittendum   QUOTE (Phil66 @ Nov 14 2018, 08:54 PM) Th...   Nov 14 2018, 10:24 PM
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- - Adam M   QUOTE (Phil66 @ Nov 12 2018, 10:03 PM) He...   Jan 2 2019, 09:30 PM
- - Phil66   Thanks Adam, I appreciate your help, I assume tha...   Jan 2 2019, 09:45 PM
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