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My First Learnt Gmc Lesson :), Carlos Carrillo Melodic Solo in Gm
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Oct 5 2008, 09:53 PM) *
O.C my friend I like this!
Very happy to see you work on it and set some goals with this. I hope you will get accepted in mentoring program and share your knowledge with others here at GMC.

biggrin.gif I don't know about me having knowledge lol smile.gif I'm not in the mentoring program unfortunately as I have only just recently bought a high quality webcam. Hopefully if there is opportunity to take part in a few months if it is successful I will hopefully join smile.gif

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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Oct 5 2008, 10:55 PM) *
biggrin.gif I don't know about me having knowledge lol smile.gif I'm not in the mentoring program unfortunately as I have only just recently bought a high quality webcam. Hopefully if there is opportunity to take part in a few months if it is successful I will hopefully join smile.gif


Haha funny man biggrin.gif
Never enough knowledge man. Keep learning new things always but also feel good about things you already know! This is for me winning formula wink.gif
By the way, what do you consider high quality web cam ? And how much do they go for ?
I need to get one for some conferencing and lessons so just wondering what your experience is with it (does it have latency in video and sound etc).

Thanks

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Sounds great ^^
Never give up =)

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I like it ! a bit of vibrato and you totally got it !
Looking forward to the video smile.gif

Keep rockin' !

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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Oct 5 2008, 10:51 PM) *
Haha funny man biggrin.gif
Never enough knowledge man. Keep learning new things always but also feel good about things you already know! This is for me winning formula wink.gif
By the way, what do you consider high quality web cam ? And how much do they go for ?
I need to get one for some conferencing and lessons so just wondering what your experience is with it (does it have latency in video and sound etc).

Thanks

I got a Logitech Quickcam Sphere AF. It cost me £75 ($150) but man is it worth it. It's a really high quality web cam and the best web cam you can get really before you get to camcorders. It's ideal for conferencing but I'm not sure on the quality for lessons but then again I'm not an expert on lighting arrangement which is key to a high quality video also. Here is a link to the system and some information. I highly recommend it though.

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/webcam_c...80&cl=gb,en

QUOTE (Canis @ Oct 5 2008, 10:59 PM) *
Sounds great ^^
Never give up =)

I always feel like giving up. I just need to get better and improve my confidence.

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Ok.

In my opinion, your tone is way too dry.
When you combine a dry tone with a much too fast vibrato, it almost sounds out of tune.

Positives are that you obviously nailed the notes, and your timing was superb!

Best of luck my friend

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QUOTE (kjutte @ Oct 6 2008, 12:59 AM) *
Ok.

In my opinion, your tone is way too dry.
When you combine a dry tone with a much too fast vibrato, it almost sounds out of tune.

Positives are that you obviously nailed the notes, and your timing was superb!

Best of luck my friend

Cheers for the feedback. Sorry I don't know what dry tone means though. How would I change that? Does that mean it's empty or what? People have said that before to me but I never know what it means fully.

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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Oct 6 2008, 02:03 AM) *
Cheers for the feedback. Sorry I don't know what dry tone means though. How would I change that? Does that mean it's empty or what? People have said that before to me but I never know what it means fully.


Get on msn and I'll show you.

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Also what would people say is a step up from this solo in the way of melodic soloing? This is a 2/10 so I'd like a 3 or 4/10 for the next one I try. I want to keep focused on fairly simple melodic solo ideas smile.gif

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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Oct 6 2008, 12:19 PM) *
Also what would people say is a step up from this solo in the way of melodic soloing? This is a 2/10 so I'd like a 3 or 4/10 for the next one I try. I want to keep focused on fairly simple melodic solo ideas smile.gif


What about the Solo in D of Muris: link

I just love the melody of that one

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QUOTE (Velvet Roger @ Oct 6 2008, 11:32 AM) *
What about the Solo in D of Muris: link

I just love the melody of that one

Cool a 4/10 lesson is exactly what I need. I will give it a shot smile.gif Thanks for that.

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Hey man, I even liked that little noise at the end when you (accidentaly?) touched the strings, it sort of gave a nice contrast compared to the atmospheric solo.

Keep up the good work m8!

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QUOTE (berko @ Oct 6 2008, 11:54 AM) *
Hey man, I even liked that little noise at the end when you (accidentaly?) touched the strings, it sort of gave a nice contrast compared to the atmospheric solo.

Keep up the good work m8!

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Haha smile.gif I tend to do that a lot. I should post my favourite ending mishap. I still don't know how I created the sound. biggrin.gif

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Sounds like you have the timing right. I am not sure what Kjutte means by the dry sound but I would describe it more as a thin sound which I mean as lack of sustain on some of the notes as if you are hitting some of the notes just tentatively. Part of this could be the guitar but I think it may be about how you pick the notes - perhaps try a slightly heavier touch (I play the same way but as I get more confident with practice - and after I learn the timing - I can start playing with a heavier touch changing emphasis on some notes).

One way you can do this is to try using pinch harmonics on some of the notes and then toning them down if they are too much later - and don't worry about the timing too much at first when you concentrate on making each note sing. With the improved tone and your already good timing of the piece, it will come together very shortly. When this happens, you'll be itching to play more and more!

Muris just came out with a recent lesson for beginners - I think it was a harmonic scale piece for beginners and I think you will find it has similar challenges to Carlos piece. Trond's Am solo for beginners is a good one as well. Try working on more than one similar exercise and you might find that something that you discover in one piece translates well in the others (particularly your tone).

Good luck!

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QUOTE (TheOldOnes @ Oct 6 2008, 02:04 PM) *
Sounds like you have the timing right. I am not sure what Kjutte means by the dry sound but I would describe it more as a thin sound which I mean as lack of sustain on some of the notes as if you are hitting some of the notes just tentatively. Part of this could be the guitar but I think it may be about how you pick the notes - perhaps try a slightly heavier touch (I play the same way but as I get more confident with practice - and after I learn the timing - I can start playing with a heavier touch changing emphasis on some notes).

One way you can do this is to try using pinch harmonics on some of the notes and then toning them down if they are too much later - and don't worry about the timing too much at first when you concentrate on making each note sing. With the improved tone and your already good timing of the piece, it will come together very shortly. When this happens, you'll be itching to play more and more!

Muris just came out with a recent lesson for beginners - I think it was a harmonic scale piece for beginners and I think you will find it has similar challenges to Carlos piece. Trond's Am solo for beginners is a good one as well. Try working on more than one similar exercise and you might find that something that you discover in one piece translates well in the others (particularly your tone).

Good luck!

Cheers for the feedback. I have been working on my tone lately and it is better than it was 6 months ago but it is still a long way off where I want it to get to. I will check out the solos you mentioned and give them a shot. smile.gif I know if I nail the tone it will give me a huge improvement on my playing currently smile.gif And I must admit I hate pinch harmonics and never use them. I can do them but I'm really not a fan of them at all.

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Great weldone mate smile.gif

Bends are so good.


How dare did you say that 6 yrs wasted few days ago? cool.gif

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QUOTE (Vinod Saranga @ Oct 6 2008, 02:39 PM) *
Great weldone mate smile.gif

Bends are so good.


How dare did you say that 6 yrs wasted few days ago? cool.gif

It is only a 2/10 lesson difficulty to be fair although I'm certain that just isn't the case. It really isn't that simple for a beginner.

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QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Oct 5 2008, 03:21 PM) *
Ok so I'm very lazy and I never practice any lessons here at GMC I only ever write songs when I pick up a guitar so I decided to practice this lesson as part of the competition that is currently on for the Beginner challenge. This is by no means perfect and I hope to perfect it before I record video live for the competition entrance.

A few points. The guitar pro tab that Carlos gives is different to what he plays and the backing track is longer than what he plays AND the guitar pro file lol so it seems to finish early but I'm positive I do the final run in the correct place. I know my bends are weak which is annoying but here goes. I did my best sad.gif

Any comments off anyone would be awesome smile.gif

Be Gentle smile.gif

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It really sounds great to me man!
Good rhythm placement and precise notes.
You asked me in PM what you could work on next, I would try the same melody with some extra guitar tricks.. Aproach some of the notes with bends and wider vibrato, that might help your playing.
It's really good man, you're on the right track!

As you asked here a a few suggestions as far as lesson that might help...
They are not in the same style, but incorporating some elements from these lessons in your lead might help and inspire you:

my Micro bends lesson
Marcus Lavendell Vibrato lesson
Muris Lukather lesson for phrasing

Hope that helps!




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QUOTE (David Wallimann @ Oct 6 2008, 04:29 PM) *
It really sounds great to me man!
Good rhythm placement and precise notes.
You asked me in PM what you could work on next, I would try the same melody with some extra guitar tricks.. Aproach some of the notes with bends and wider vibrato, that might help your playing.
It's really good man, you're on the right track!

As you asked here a a few suggestions as far as lesson that might help...
They are not in the same style, but incorporating some elements from these lessons in your lead might help and inspire you:

my Micro bends lesson
Marcus Lavendell Vibrato lesson
Muris Lukather lesson for phrasing

Hope that helps!

Cheers for the comments David. I really am going to work hard from now on. Less complaining and more doing from me hopefully smile.gif I will check out those lessons. Thanks again smile.gif

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