Dimmu Borgir's New Album, Abrahadabra Options

[Daniel Realpe]

Some of you might hate this type of stuff. I'm actually not a Black metal fan, but this band really stands out. Their latest album is just EPIC!

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[Lian Gerbino]

well, about what I said above, do not take me wrong.
I think you have to chose a band, a song, a melody, keeping just one question in mind: Do I like it? if yes, it doesn't matter if they are true or the worst commercial pop band in the world!
in this particular case, and talking specifically of Black Metal, there are so many points of view.
with True Black Metal, we say: bands like Mayhem, Immortal, Emperor... since they are from Scandinavia, (Norway to be precise) so, the word "True" means that they belong to the land where all it has started.
now, think about Cradle of Filth, in their beginning they really played good black metal, but they never called themselves "true" since they are from UK
now, Dimmu's last album is not Black metal, is a kind of evolution of it, with their particular trademarks and all, but they changed. this happens to all of us (not only musicians) but people.
now, to the most, all this has NO SENSE! xd! but for us, metalheads, all this details and stuff behind the music are TOO important.
and we can spent hours and days discussing about it, reading carefully lyrics, and involving into a concept, even if it just fantasy.

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[steve25]

well, about what I said above, do not take me wrong.
I think you have to chose a band, a song, a melody, keeping just one question in mind: Do I like it? if yes, it doesn't matter if they are true or the worst commercial pop band in the world!
in this particular case, and talking specifically of Black Metal, there are so many points of view.
with True Black Metal, we say: bands like Mayhem, Immortal, Emperor... since they are from Scandinavia, (Norway to be precise) so, the word "True" means that they belong to the land where all it has started.
now, think about Cradle of Filth, in their beginning they really played good black metal, but they never called themselves "true" since they are from UK
now, Dimmu's last album is not Black metal, is a kind of evolution of it, with their particular trademarks and all, but they changed. this happens to all of us (not only musicians) but people.
now, to the most, all this has NO SENSE! xd! but for us, metalheads, all this details and stuff behind the music are TOO important.
and we can spent hours and days discussing about it, reading carefully lyrics, and involving into a concept, even if it just fantasy.

Not sure I completely agree with that. Black metal didn't come from Norway initially, just the Norwegian wave of black metal. And what the loyal black metalers would call true black metal I don't think has anything to do with the origin but more the sound and ideology. A lot of black metalers would call an album non-true black metal just for the production where Norwegian black metal was purposely made very unpolished and, well, to put it bluntly badly produced in all areas. Mostly so that they're music would remain underground and wouldn't appeal to a mainstream audience.

There aren't many true black metalers around these days and those who claimed to be are drifting away from it. Varg Vikernes I think remains within that mind set of doing exactly what you want to do and not thinking about what other people want. He's made this quite clear on a number of occasions. However I do think he thinks he's a bigger name then he actually is.

I do quite like a lot of black metal stuff. Gorgoroth and Immortal are probably my favourite black metal bands and I do like a lot of Emperor and early Burzum stuff. I do think the whole "kvlt black metal" stuff does get out of hand at times and one band trying to be more extreme than the next also gets a bit silly

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