Major Minor Question
Phil66
Oct 28 2018, 10:02 AM
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Hello folks,

I know when you play a major scale and its relative minor they sound different, major sounds happy, minor sounds sad but I do think the happy/sad thing is more apparent with chords.

What I don't understand is that when I'm improvising they can both sound happy or sad, to me anyway.

Can someone explain please.

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Phil66
Oct 28 2018, 09:25 PM
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I always wondered about it because let's say we play just guitar, no backing, no rhythm, just solo. How would the person listening know if you were playing A minor or C major???

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Even played exactly the same, I'd say one could tell the difference. At least I certainly can. smile.gif
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Oct 28 2018, 04:25 PM) *
I always wondered about it because let's say we play just guitar, no backing, no rhythm, just solo. How would the person listening know if you were playing A minor or C major???

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Oct 29 2018, 08:26 AM
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I don't understand. How can you tell if it's major ir the relative minor if you play exactly the same notes in exactly the same way?

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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Oct 29 2018, 01:41 AM) *
Even played exactly the same, I'd say one could tell the difference. At least I certainly can. smile.gif
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Thanks Ben,

I'll check it out

QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Oct 29 2018, 01:54 AM) *
Marty Friedman explains this in relation to an actual solo, if I recall correctly. It's in his Melodic Control instructional video.

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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Oct 29 2018, 09:26 AM) *
I don't understand. How can you tell if it's major ir the relative minor if you play exactly the same notes in exactly the same way?

Thanks




Thanks Ben,

I'll check it out


But in itself, they are not played the same. The distance and relation between the notes themselves are different - that's what makes it either one or the other.

Now, without going into physics, off the top of my head, an A4 is 440 hertz, where a C4 is around 260 Hz. They have different wavelengths too.

But how would you play the two scales the same though? If you started both scales from C, they'd both be C major, of course, but if you start one from A and one from C, they'd be relatively A minor and C major because of the relations and distances between the notes.

However, if you start both scales from C and play them on either an A minor chord or a C major chord, they would sound what they are in relation to the chord below, and they would more so reveal their colour, because the chord below offer some guidance, direction and relation to the notes of the scale.

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- Phil66   Major Minor Question   Oct 28 2018, 10:02 AM
- - MonkeyDAthos   I can understand the happy and sad feeling, but I ...   Oct 28 2018, 04:35 PM
- - Phil66   It may have something to do with me. When I improv...   Oct 28 2018, 05:31 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   Minor scales and chords in general do sound a bit ...   Oct 28 2018, 07:04 PM
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- - Phil66   Thanks Todd, I have a lot of musical understanding...   Oct 28 2018, 07:43 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   It's a long road to be sure You have good ins...   Oct 28 2018, 08:13 PM
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||- - Todd Simpson   Ahh!! I think i see what are saying now. ...   Oct 30 2018, 01:13 AM
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|- - Caelumamittendum   QUOTE (Phil66 @ Oct 28 2018, 10:25 PM) I ...   Oct 29 2018, 01:54 AM
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- - Phil66   Thanks, I kinda get that but I didn't understa...   Oct 29 2018, 12:43 PM
|- - MonkeyDAthos   QUOTE (Phil66 @ Oct 29 2018, 12:43 PM) Th...   Oct 29 2018, 03:03 PM
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- - Phil66   Todd, is that what you meant buddy?   Oct 29 2018, 07:23 PM
- - Phil66   Thanks Todd, I'll study this a bit more in de...   Oct 31 2018, 08:11 AM
|- - Todd Simpson   Happy to help Let me know if you have any questio...   Oct 31 2018, 08:29 PM
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- - klasaine   Short answer ... you can't. If the notes are ...   Oct 31 2018, 08:13 PM
|- - Phil66   QUOTE (klasaine @ Oct 31 2018, 08:13 PM) ...   Nov 1 2018, 09:57 AM
|- - Todd Simpson   My reply was so long winded I don't think it h...   Nov 3 2018, 02:17 AM
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- - PosterBoy   You'd need to emphasis one of the notes as the...   Nov 1 2018, 03:51 PM
|- - Phil66   QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Nov 1 2018, 03:51 PM) ...   Nov 1 2018, 05:36 PM
|- - klasaine   QUOTE (Phil66 @ Nov 1 2018, 09:36 AM) I a...   Nov 2 2018, 11:24 PM
|- - Phil66   QUOTE (klasaine @ Nov 2 2018, 11:24 PM) N...   Nov 2 2018, 11:37 PM
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- - Phil66   Thanks Todd, no worries, I'm not always good a...   Nov 3 2018, 03:50 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   Sounds like a plan!! Your ear is spot on, ...   Nov 3 2018, 07:22 PM
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- - Phil66   Maybe you misunderstood me buddy, I said "whe...   Nov 3 2018, 10:48 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   Yup. Misunderstood again. Thanks for the clarifica...   Nov 4 2018, 05:13 AM
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- - Phil66   I'd did help a little thank you, as I said, re...   Nov 4 2018, 10:52 AM
|- - Todd Simpson   If you can memorize that chart I put up from the s...   Nov 5 2018, 03:06 AM
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- - Phil66   Thanks Todd, Yeah, I know the notes on the E, I k...   Nov 5 2018, 08:22 AM
|- - Todd Simpson   As long as you know where the notes are on the E, ...   Nov 6 2018, 03:55 AM
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- - Phil66   Well I watched a you tube video (can't find it...   Nov 6 2018, 08:12 AM
|- - Todd Simpson   The "CAGED" System is basically a way to...   Nov 8 2018, 03:31 AM
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- - Caelumamittendum   Youtube threw this at me randomly, and I thought i...   Nov 7 2018, 09:50 AM
- - Phil66   Wow thanks Todd, I really appreciate you putting t...   Nov 8 2018, 01:13 PM
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