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Mar 16 2008, 11:14 PM |
Thanks ballistic for a very useful post. I was wondering if you could go into more details on #2? Like what it is what it involves and how you might do it etc.
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Mar 16 2008, 11:15 PM |
+1 for loop/multi lane - and not just for rhythm guitar . Quite a few daws, including Reaper, make quite a big deal about lane recording.
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Mar 17 2008, 01:14 AM |
I'm not sure what this is i don't know anything about it, never heard of it. Any sites i can find out about it?
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Mar 17 2008, 01:20 AM |
It depends on the music and arrangment. In progressive metal with off syncopating beat riffs it is hard to overlap. In some songs looping is better options for rhythtm. In general the best is to do perfect in one take, if you can't do it than must crossfade the parts seemlesly. Try to break them at important junctures in the song, so the difference is then smaller and always cut the files where the sine of the audio wave touches the middle line of the event.
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Mar 17 2008, 08:33 AM |
I like to do my rhythm tracks in one go if i can, or do a new track if there's a break in the song.
Might take some more time to get a perfect take though if it's a tricky song, but i think the results sound better. This post has been edited by Trond Vold: Mar 17 2008, 08:34 AM -------------------- Guitars: Schecter Stiletto Classic, Jackson SLSMG, Ibanez RG-380 Japan, Gibson Les Paul Studio
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Mar 17 2008, 12:40 PM |
Playing it all the way through is ideal - but its very possible and these days very easy to make any part up out of several takes. Editors are now so sophisticated that you can click and drag any parts together, as long as you pick a place in between notes. With good cross fading you often don;t even need to do that.
In fact this is called "comping" and people have been doing it for years - I remember reading a Dave Golmour interview in which he said the comfortably numb solo was just 3 or 4 takes in the studio and he picked the best bits of each. However, despite all of this, the best musicians will continuously rerecord until they get 2 or 3 great takes all the way through then choose the best. The loop thing is just a way of setting your computer up so that it keeps rerecording the whole section you tell it to, time after time until you stop it. Its a very convenient way of playing the same thing over until you get a take that you like without recording over the top of all the old takes. -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Mar 18 2008, 07:37 PM |
Very nicely put Andrew
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Mar 18 2008, 07:43 PM |
Lately I've been trying the "click and drag" method more, because it's tiring to play long sections of a song over and over again only because I played one bad note or something. Of course playing it all in one take is the best way, but fiddling around with different sections of songs and crossfading them together is always helpful
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Mar 25 2008, 08:56 PM
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Just like Mr. Robinson said, you'd be surprised at what you can actually get away with if you do it properly. Me and a friend of mine were laying down guitars for a song last week which we hadn't totally finished yet. He came up with a cool riff on the spot and we decided to go with it. Now the riff isn't a very difficult one but since none of us had played it before we were bound to make mistakes if we tried to nail the whole riff in one take. So what do you do?
Well we could have sat down and practiced awhile so we could really nail it, but that's boring so instead we went for the cut n' paste method. In this case, the riff is actually not even played for the whole bar, there's cuts for replacements all over the place. The first bar of the riff is cut twice and the second bar is cut once. I've gone ahead and posted the finished result here so that you can listen to it and judge for yourself. Now you know that I've made cuts in the riff so you'll be listening for them but if you didn't know, do you think you'd notice? With everything else in the mix, it's really hard to hear small imperfections like the ones you get from cutting and pasting. /Marcus Post_Factum___Ripoff.mp3 ( 939.92K ) Number of downloads: 254 |
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Mar 26 2008, 06:04 AM |
Wow thats awesome Smurkas.
I really dig that riff and the editing of it is top shelf. Thanks for sharing! Daniel |
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