Always With Me....., My work about futur cover Options

[Manu RASSE]

Hi GMC

For some time I have been working on "always with me......"
It was reading Phil’s topc that made me want to.

I stopped "Shunk Funk" lesson because the large movements give me pain in my right arm.
My shock wave treatment is almost complete, I’ll resume as soon as possible.

Jo SATRIANI is my favorite guitarist since I was 15 years old. I tried to learn this song 10 years ago but it was too difficult.
Today, I have facilities to play thanks to the work I did every day on GMC.

This is my first one shot.
I still have a lot of work to do. I’m quite happy because I’m starting to understand the legato placement.
Apart from the precision, the first is almost good because the second is still wobbly.

I share my files for all guitarist want to learn it.
- Original Youtube lesson
- My playlist cut in Lesson 14 PART .
- Backing track
- Tab improve by Benjamin (Right click and "save as" if the site gives you an error)

My own self-criticism.
Precipitation on the beat / Accent to be improved / Stray noise / Ghost notes / bend release / Legato / Slide / Vibrato

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This post has been edited by Manu RASSE: Oct 16 2022, 09:58 AM

[Phil66]

That's brilliant Manu. I still can't get the legato part down.

Cheers

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[Manu RASSE]

Hi Phil

Thank you.
To improve this part - I suggest you work on "Ben's band of legato".
To progress you must position the left hand perpendicular to the neck.

About always with me... I share my files. Maybe it help you ?
I work with this Youtube lesson. The problem is that the guy talks too much.
I cut out the ten old parts like GMC lessons. It lacks the very slow side but just slow down the speed in youtube parameter.
Here my playlist : Lesson 10 PART .

You can download on my Google Drive :
Backing track : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ju1_K4lem6...iew?usp=sharing
Tab : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wzF1-j8yaT...iew?usp=sharing (Video lesson is different about legato part - Video Better for me)

Have a nice day.

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This post has been edited by Manu RASSE: Oct 15 2022, 04:36 PM

[Monica Gheorghev...]

Hi Manu!

Don't worry about the Skunk Funk lesson. You can start working on it when you will feel better. Until then, avoid anything that can cause you pain in the arms.

About "Always with me, always with you", I can say that it sounds very promising. For a first take, it sounds really good.
You know, it's always a pleasure to listen to your awesome takes.

I liked the fact that you "judged" your playing in a very objective way. This is a proof that you are a very good player and you have already reached the point when you have started seeing the "details" behind the notes/sounds. That's really awesome!!!

Because you are still in the working process with this cover, I have a tip for you (if you want to do an experiment). It's something that Darius learned me and it changed my playing in a very good way.
Try when you play slow or soft parts to keep the pick in a straight position because it will give you the maximum sound of the string and the minimum sound of the pick. Use the pick in an angle position only when you have a lot of string skipping or fast patterns.

Keep up your awesome work!

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[Phil66]

Thanks Manu,

I bought the GP file which was only €2 and is helpful also check out https://www.shutupandplay.ca/always-with-me...-you--solo.html

Thank for your help

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[Manu RASSE]

Hi Monica

Thank you for feedback
I should try to apply your advices about picking next session

Thank you Phil
You’ll see if it’s the same as mine

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This post has been edited by Manu RASSE: Oct 15 2022, 05:17 PM

[Phil66]

Thank you Phil
You’ll see if it’s the same as mine

That Shut Up & Play Link has three videos, two of them talk you through slowly showing how to play the song, it's not exactly line Joe's version but when listening nobody would tell.

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This post has been edited by Phil66: Oct 15 2022, 07:47 PM

[Storm Linnebjerg]

I just tabbed out this in the last 1½ hour in Guitar Pro 8. I know it sounds a bit arrogant, but I think it's as easy to read and closer to a precise tab than I have otherwise seen. The ones I have seen have all had the snare-clap reversed compared to the studio version.

Tab will be uploaded to Ultimate-Guitar too.

(Right click and "save as" if the site gives you an error)
 Joe_Satriani___Always_With_Me_Always_With_You_GP8_v2.gp ( 85.07K ) Number of downloads: 250

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This post has been edited by Storm Linnebjerg: Oct 15 2022, 09:37 PM

[Storm Linnebjerg]

I've started working on the song as well now. Fun song!

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[Phil66]

I've started working on the song as well now. Fun song!

Yeah great song with more ornaments than a ten metre high Christmas tree

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[Storm Linnebjerg]

Yeah great song with more ornaments than a ten metre high Christmas tree

Ornaments is a really important aspect of setting apart players - and taking a step between levels, as well as sounding more "pro". I think studying those things that you like from Satch will help you immensely!

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[Storm Linnebjerg]

Hi GMC

For some time I have been working on "always with me......"
It was reading Phil’s topc that made me want to.

I stopped "Shunk Funk" lesson because the large movements give me pain in my right arm.
My shock wave treatment is almost complete, I’ll resume as soon as possible.

Jo SATRIANI is my favorite guitarist since I was 15 years old. I tried to learn this song 10 years ago but it was too difficult.
Today, I have facilities to play thanks to the work I did every day on GMC.

This is my first one shot.
I still have a lot of work to do. I’m quite happy because I’m starting to understand the legato placement.
Apart from the precision, the first is almost good because the second is still wobbly.

My own self-criticism.

precipitation on the beat
Accent to be improved
Stray noise
Ghost notes
bend release
Legato
Slide
Vibrato

Some comments for you, MisterSuperstar



And this is what I meant about the tapping section:

9-7-9-5-7-9-7-5-7-7-7-
11-11-9-7-9-7-5-7-9-7-5-4-2-2-2-2
11-11-9-7-9-7-5-7-9-7-4-5-5-5-5-5

All other notes in between are 12-0-X where X is the notes from the list above

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[Storm Linnebjerg]

On second thought: These are just my opinion by the way, and I think Satch plays the song more quiet in the real version.

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[Manu RASSE]

Hi Benjamin

Thanks for your video. it’s great !
The subtitles are not available for this one but I think I have understood everything.
Your playing is much more relaxed than mine.I really like the way you approach licks at the beginning of the music.
I’ll try to take inspiration from it. For the others I see that you learn them at the same time as you watch the video.

I am impressed by your direct reading of tablature. Personally, I do not understand reading. I use the tabs to work with the metronome because the numbers are complicated to decipher on the neck. I use videos to learn and only after I use guitar pro tab.

I hope you will learn it too, it will motivate me to go all the way. Your "neural DSP" preset is exceptional.
It does not sound the same on my guitar. It is a great frustration for me. I would like to correct that.

Thank you for the taping section. I will learn as soon as I master the lesson because I don’t want to go too fast.

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This post has been edited by Manu RASSE: Oct 16 2022, 05:05 AM

[Storm Linnebjerg]

Hi Benjamin

Thanks for your video. it’s great !
The subtitles are not available for this one but I think I have understood everything.
Your playing is much more relaxed than mine.I really like the way you approach licks at the beginning of the music.
I’ll try to take inspiration from it. For the others I see that you learn them at the same time as you watch the video.

I am impressed by your direct reading of tablature. Personally, I do not understand reading. I use the tabs to work with the metronome because the numbers are complicated to decipher on the neck. I use videos to learn and only after I use guitar pro tab.

I hope you will learn it too, it will motivate me to go all the way. Your "neural DSP" preset is exceptional.
It does not sound the same on my guitar. It is a great frustration for me. I would like to correct that.

Thank you for the taping section. I will learn as soon as I master the lesson because I don’t want to go too fast.

I'm glad you liked the video Maybe the subtitles become available or I can try to make it work. I don't know how though.

I try to always be relaxed as possible, but I also use very light strings (08-38) and the strings are very close to the fretboard. It's difficult because it's easy to go out of tune cause it's so light, but it doesn't require much strength.

I hope my video can inspire you a little bit. You and Phil inspire me to learn the song - so I will go for it too. I haven't learned a full song in a long long time.

I read tablature very directly and fast. I have used Guitar Pro for 20 years. I think it's a habit by now. I look at the tablature and the sheet music at the same time to understand the rhythm too.

And yes, I have to make different presets for my different guitars. This one doesn't sound good on my yellow/orange Ibanez, but I try to just adjust some of the settings and get it to sound good. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't

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[Manu RASSE]

I should try to improve mine. I have your setting

Your tab doesn't work with my GP6
Can you save it with an application extension less recent than version 8

1rst page on Topic updated with all files

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[Storm Linnebjerg]

Ah, I have to install GP6 again and make sure it looks okay. It'll be here in maybe half an hour

I also made a little quick video about playing a melody from tablature/sheet:



I will upload the file as soon as I can.

I cannot get the file to look nice in Guitar Pro 6 (I was never a fan of 6, so I don't know how to make it look nice). It looks messy and not very nice

So I have tried another thing:
PDF made with GP8:  Joe_Satriani___Always_with_Me__Always_with_You.pdf ( 190.74K ) Number of downloads: 235

MP3 made with GP8:  Joe_Satriani___Always_With_Me_Always_With_You_GP8_v2.mp3 ( 5.41MB ) Number of downloads: 255

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[Manu RASSE]

Next week I should try to update mine with your pdf.
Thank you for video. I admit that tablature reading is very rare for me.
I don’t like it and I don’t want to learn to do it.
My son is like you, he can read and play live.

See you soon
Have a nice sunday

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[Storm Linnebjerg]

Next week I should try to update mine with your pdf.
Thank you for video. I admit that tablature reading is very rare for me.
I don’t like it and I don’t want to learn to do it.
My son is like you, he can read and play live.

See you soon
Have a nice sunday

You don't HAVE to learn to read or use tablature. Some people never learn about it and do perfectly fine.
The reason that I learned it was simple: my ears sucked (they still sometimes do), so I needed to learn visually and see "Ah! I must play the 5-7-8 on the B string and then 5-7-8 on the E string!" (it's just an example), and back then it was easier for me to understand it by seeing it rather than by hearing it cause of my bad ears Then with time came the knowledge that 5-7-8 on the B string is E, F#, G and 5-7-8 on the E string is A, B, C etc.

And when I learned about rhythm values, it quickly made sense in my mind. Like mathematics and patterns. But that is how my brain works and other people have a long and good career in different ways



I also started doing a lot of "no look" practice maybe 1½-2 years ago, where I just try to tell myself to not look at the fretboard and at first I played a lot of wrong notes, but it doesn't happen that often anymore. I think that has helped me in two ways:
1. To read and play quicker from tabs/sheet
2. To train my ears

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This post has been edited by Storm Linnebjerg: Oct 16 2022, 01:52 PM

[Todd Simpson]

This song is packed with ornamentation and Joe makes great use of such Some great posts about this song and great to see folks working on it as a team!! Here is one of the vids manu shared from the playlist of breaking this tune down into chunks. Its similar to one of bens vids showing a bit of a slide to give flair. This type of thing can be subtle but is part of what gives this song and joes playing such a great vibe.

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