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Alex Feather
Jul 28 2012, 10:00 AM
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Hi! I am very happy that you have decided to join!!!
And looking forward to start giving you ear training assignments! smile.gif
Here is a few questions!
-What are your goals?
-What is your weakness?
-What is your strongest point?
-Your favorite guitar players?

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Nether
Jul 28 2012, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Jul 28 2012, 11:00 AM) *
Hi! I am very happy that you have decided to join!!!
And looking forward to start giving you ear training assignments! smile.gif
Here is a few questions!
-What are your goals?
-What is your weakness?
-What is your strongest point?
-Your favorite guitar players?


Wow, these are a lot of hard questions
1.- My goals:
1.1.- Ear training:
1.1.1.- Short term: Being able to distinguish the chords within a song. Being able to figure out simple melodies with some legato techniques.
1.1.2.- Medium term: Being able to distinguish chord embellishments and more complex melodies.
1.1.3.- Long term: Being able to play whatever i have in my head
1.2.- Guitar playing: Have some fun and being able to play cover songs from my favorite bands (see below).
2.- Weakness:
2.1.- Ear training: Everything, i'm starting with it. I'm able to find the key of the song and figure the chords out of it if they are in the major or minor scale and without embellishments or inversions. I'm also able to figure out some simple melodies if they are not to fast or complicated. All of these with a lot of work and try and error . My first objective is to be able to do it without having to try every chord of the scale.
2.2.- Guitar playing: My rhythm may need some work, and my bendings are always too much or not enough (ear training will improve this, i supose)
3.- Strongest point: I can't think of anything...
4.- Favorite guitar players: Some of my favorite guitarrists are Slash, John Frusciante, Jimmy Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Randy Rhoads. Some of my favorite bands are Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Metallica, Foo Fighters, Deep Purple, The Beatles, Credence Clearwater Revival, The Doors, Muse, The Strokes... i don't know, there are so many... I've done this youtube list where you can see some of my favorite songs: Great Rock Songs


I'm looking forward to begin my training laugh.gif

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Alex Feather
Jul 28 2012, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE (Nether @ Jul 28 2012, 10:21 AM) *
Wow, these are a lot of hard questions
1.- My goals:
1.1.- Ear training:
1.1.1.- Short term: Being able to distinguish the chords within a song. Being able to figure out simple melodies with some legato techniques.
1.1.2.- Medium term: Being able to distinguish chord embellishments and more complex melodies.
1.1.3.- Long term: Being able to play whatever i have in my head
1.2.- Guitar playing: Have some fun and being able to play cover songs from my favorite bands (see below).
2.- Weakness:
2.1.- Ear training: Everything, i'm starting with it. I'm able to find the key of the song and figure the chords out of it if they are in the major or minor scale and without embellishments or inversions. I'm also able to figure out some simple melodies if they are not to fast or complicated. All of these with a lot of work and try and error . My first objective is to be able to do it without having to try every chord of the scale.
2.2.- Guitar playing: My rhythm may need some work, and my bendings are always too much or not enough (ear training will improve this, i supose)
3.- Strongest point: I can't think of anything...
4.- Favorite guitar players: Some of my favorite guitarrists are Slash, John Frusciante, Jimmy Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Randy Rhoads. Some of my favorite bands are Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Metallica, Foo Fighters, Deep Purple, The Beatles, Credence Clearwater Revival, The Doors, Muse, The Strokes... i don't know, there are so many... I've done this youtube list where you can see some of my favorite songs: Great Rock Songs


I'm looking forward to begin my training laugh.gif

Awesome!
So here is how we will be doing it smile.gif
First I will start posting tracks for you and will give you little hints! Every time tracks will get harder and harder! smile.gif I will help you develop relative pitch so you will be able to transcribe music without any problems!
To start I would like to see at what level you are so I am not gonna give you any hints or clues just yet!
Here is the track!
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/transcribe-7

Let me know if you have any questions or need help! smile.gif

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Nether
Jul 28 2012, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Jul 28 2012, 06:49 PM) *
Awesome!
So here is how we will be doing it smile.gif
First I will start posting tracks for you and will give you little hints! Every time tracks will get harder and harder! smile.gif I will help you develop relative pitch so you will be able to transcribe music without any problems!
To start I would like to see at what level you are so I am not gonna give you any hints or clues just yet!
Here is the track!
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/transcribe-7

Let me know if you have any questions or need help! smile.gif


It's been lot of fun, thank you Alex.
If i'm not wrong the progression goes this way:

I iii ii V x2
I ii iii IV x2
I

I think it's in the key of A, so the song would be like this:

A C#m Bm E x2
A Bm C#m D x2
A

With rhythm:

E |--5--5--4--4----|--7-----------7-----------7--------7--7------------|||
B |--5--5--5--5----|--7-----------7-----------9--------9--9------------|||
G |--6--6--6--6----|--7-----------7-----------9--------9--9-----------o|||
D |--7--7--6--6----|--9-----------9-----------9--------9--9-----------o|||
A |--7--7--4--4----|--9-----------9-----------7--------7--7------------|||
E |--5--5----------|--7-----------7------------------------------------|||


-5--5--2--2----|--4-----------4-----------5--------5--5------------||--5----||
-5--5--3--3----|--5-----------5-----------7--------7--7------------||--5----||
o6--6--4--4----|--6-----------6-----------7--------7--7-----------o||--6----||
o7--7--4--4----|--6-----------6-----------7--------7--7-----------o||--7----||
-7--7--2--2----|--4-----------4-----------5--------5--5------------||--7----||
-5--5----------|---------------------------------------------------||--5----||


As text tabs are difficult to understand i've take a picture of the TAB so it's easier to see:
Trascription TAB

I have used different voicings for the Bm chord because they where easier to use in each case tongue.gif .

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Alex Feather
Jul 30 2012, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE (Nether @ Jul 28 2012, 06:34 PM) *
It's been lot of fun, thank you Alex.
If i'm not wrong the progression goes this way:

I iii ii V x2
I ii iii IV x2
I

I think it's in the key of A, so the song would be like this:

A C#m Bm E x2
A Bm C#m D x2
A

With rhythm:

E |--5--5--4--4----|--7-----------7-----------7--------7--7------------|||
B |--5--5--5--5----|--7-----------7-----------9--------9--9------------|||
G |--6--6--6--6----|--7-----------7-----------9--------9--9-----------o|||
D |--7--7--6--6----|--9-----------9-----------9--------9--9-----------o|||
A |--7--7--4--4----|--9-----------9-----------7--------7--7------------|||
E |--5--5----------|--7-----------7------------------------------------|||


-5--5--2--2----|--4-----------4-----------5--------5--5------------||--5----||
-5--5--3--3----|--5-----------5-----------7--------7--7------------||--5----||
o6--6--4--4----|--6-----------6-----------7--------7--7-----------o||--6----||
o7--7--4--4----|--6-----------6-----------7--------7--7-----------o||--7----||
-7--7--2--2----|--4-----------4-----------5--------5--5------------||--7----||
-5--5----------|---------------------------------------------------||--5----||


As text tabs are difficult to understand i've take a picture of the TAB so it's easier to see:
Trascription TAB

I have used different voicings for the Bm chord because they where easier to use in each case tongue.gif .

Great job!
The only mistake you have made is with D it is actually D minor chord!
I will prepare a new assignment in a couple of days! Good job!

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Nether
Jul 30 2012, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Jul 30 2012, 09:33 PM) *
Great job!
The only mistake you have made is with D it is actually D minor chord!
I will prepare a new assignment in a couple of days! Good job!



That's cheating !, Dm is not in the key of A! tongue.gif
Now I know I've to be more careful with your assignments cool.gif

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Alex Feather
Jul 30 2012, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE (Nether @ Jul 30 2012, 07:44 PM) *
That's cheating !, Dm is not in the key of A! tongue.gif
Now I know I've to be more careful with your assignments cool.gif

I have never said that it is in the key of A! It is though and Dmi can be a part of it! It's all depend on how you look at it!
If you will look at D melodic minor V will be A7 or A triad so that where this chord progression is coming from!
My assignments are challenging they might seem easy at first but when you will get deeper it is not that easy!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help!

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Alex Feather
Aug 8 2012, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE (Nether @ Jul 30 2012, 07:44 PM) *
That's cheating !, Dm is not in the key of A! tongue.gif
Now I know I've to be more careful with your assignments cool.gif

So I came up with another track for you to transcribe there is no "cheating" and everything is in the same key!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything! smile.gif

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Alex Feather
Aug 9 2012, 05:33 PM
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Here is the track!
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/transcribing

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Alex Feather
Aug 27 2012, 08:02 AM
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Hello! I just wanted to follow up and see how are you doing??? I have a new assignment ready! Let me know! smile.gif

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Nether
Aug 27 2012, 09:16 AM
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Hi Alex, I just came back from holidays, i'll let you know when i'm finished with your assignment wink.gif

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Alex Feather
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QUOTE (Nether @ Aug 27 2012, 08:16 AM) *
Hi Alex, I just came back from holidays, i'll let you know when i'm finished with your assignment wink.gif

Sounds good! How was your vacation? Where did you go?

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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Aug 29 2012, 05:52 PM) *
Sounds good! How was your vacation? Where did you go?


Was fantastic thanks, i went to Punta Cana (Dominican Republic), a lot of sun and free drinks smile.gif, too much for me indeed laugh.gif

Here I go with my transcription:

I V I ii I V IV V iii IV V IV V I

| C G | C | Dm C | G | F G | Em | F G | F G | C |

This one has been hard for me, i'm not sure of the result tongue.gif

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Alex Feather
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QUOTE (Nether @ Aug 29 2012, 04:36 PM) *
Was fantastic thanks, i went to Punta Cana (Dominican Republic), a lot of sun and free drinks smile.gif, too much for me indeed laugh.gif

Here I go with my transcription:

I V I ii I V IV V iii IV V IV V I

| C G | C | Dm C | G | F G | Em | F G | F G | C |

This one has been hard for me, i'm not sure of the result tongue.gif

Awesome I am glad you had a great time!
The transcription is incorrect
Let's start by figuring out the bass notes only!

To hint you the first chord is D mi7
So the note is D
I would like you to continue! smile.gif
Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything!

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Alex Feather
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QUOTE (Nether @ Aug 29 2012, 04:36 PM) *
Was fantastic thanks, i went to Punta Cana (Dominican Republic), a lot of sun and free drinks smile.gif, too much for me indeed laugh.gif

Here I go with my transcription:

I V I ii I V IV V iii IV V IV V I

| C G | C | Dm C | G | F G | Em | F G | F G | C |

This one has been hard for me, i'm not sure of the result tongue.gif

Hi I just wanted to follow up and see how the transcription coming along? Do you have any questions or need help with anything?

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Nether
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Hi Alex, i need some help with this, i'm completely stuck

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QUOTE (Nether @ Sep 15 2012, 06:35 PM) *
Hi Alex, i need some help with this, i'm completely stuck

No problem!
Let's start by finding a bass for first 3 chords
Try that and we will take it from there! smile.gif

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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Sep 15 2012, 09:11 PM) *
No problem!
Let's start by finding a bass for first 3 chords
Try that and we will take it from there! smile.gif



After hearing the first 3 chords a thousand times i've noticed that they may be the same as the firsts of Still got the blues:

Dm7 G Cmaj7

E |--5--5--3--3----|--3-----3--------3----------|----|----|----||
B |--6-----3-------|--5--------5--------5-------|----|----|----||
G |--5-----4-------|--4-----------4--------4----|----|----|----||
D |--7-----3-------|--5-------------------------|----|----|----||
A |--5-----5-------|--3-------------------------|----|----|----||
E |--------3-------|----------------------------|----|----|----||

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Alex Feather
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QUOTE (Nether @ Sep 16 2012, 09:18 AM) *
After hearing the first 3 chords a thousand times i've noticed that they may be the same as the firsts of Still got the blues:

Dm7 G Cmaj7

E |--5--5--3--3----|--3-----3--------3----------|----|----|----||
B |--6-----3-------|--5--------5--------5-------|----|----|----||
G |--5-----4-------|--4-----------4--------4----|----|----|----||
D |--7-----3-------|--5-------------------------|----|----|----||
A |--5-----5-------|--3-------------------------|----|----|----||
E |--------3-------|----------------------------|----|----|----||

Perfect! This is absolutely correct! Lets find 3 more chords after it!
P.S. You don't have to transcribe picking yet just chords smile.gif

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Nether
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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Sep 17 2012, 05:50 PM) *
Perfect! This is absolutely correct! Lets find 3 more chords after it!
P.S. You don't have to transcribe picking yet just chords smile.gif


This is being very hard for me...
I would say that the next 3 bass notes are B, A and D, but i'm not very convinced mad.gif

By the way, i've been thinking that you may be able to mentor me in other aspects apart from ear training, are you available?
Thanks.

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