7th Chord Progressions And Modes Options

[MrVegas]

hello, I'm practicing some chord progressions and modes, I understand how to build major and minor chords and know where my modes are. and I'm trying to understand the theory behind it all.
when your in a major key the I chord can be a major7th the ii, iv, and vi can be played as minor 7th the 4th major 7th, the 5th as a dominant7.
if I play dorian over a ii, iv,IV progression built from the major scale I could still use 7th chords with dorian mode. so I guess what I'm asking is as I'm trying to get all of this committed to memory am I correct on how seventh chords and the the dorian mode fits into building chord progressions from the major scale? also is the 5 chord always a dominant chord in major and minor?
I'm trying to commit all keys to memory and want to get as comfortable with this to the point someone can tell me a progression with numbers in a particular key and I know exactly what chords to use without much thought, any tips and suggestions?

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[klasaine]

I'm not usually a paranoid guy but I do believe that the Coronavirus will indeed affect how we now construct the modes of the major scale, especially how we 'import' a major or dominant V chord into an otherwise minor mode.

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To the OP. You seem to be a bit confused or mistaken about the chord construction of a Major (Ionian) scale. In your original post you note more than once that iv is minor. IV is Major (upper case always for major).
Also, when you refer to seventh chords do you mean 'Dominant' 7th or just stacking the next 3rd on to a triad - ?

*As Kris mentioned - try not to think to think of D dorian as a C major scale starting on D. Yes, it has the same notes but it doesn't function the same.
Because western music only uses 12 notes we are constantly re-classifying and re-organizing them into various sub sets. It's good to know what the parent major scale is but it's not gonna help you sound better.

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This post has been edited by klasaine: Feb 29 2020, 05:03 PM

[MrVegas]

I'm not usually a paranoid guy but I do believe that the Coronavirus will indeed affect how we now construct the modes of the major scale, especially how we 'import' a major or dominant V chord into an otherwise minor mode.

Back to the program ...
To the OP. You seem to be a bit confused or mistaken about the chord construction of a Major (Ionian) scale. In your original post you note more than once that iv is minor. IV is Major (upper case always for major).
Also, when you refer to seventh chords do you mean 'Dominant' 7th or just stacking the next 3rd on to a triad - ?

*As Kris mentioned - try not to think to think of D dorian as a C major scale starting on D. Yes, it has the same notes but it doesn't function the same.
Because western music only uses 12 notes we are constantly re-classifying and re-organizing them into various sub sets. It's good to know what the parent major scale is but it's not gonna help you sound better.

The corona virus could indeed affect how I play the Dorian mode, and my understanding of chord construction. You can’t do shit when you get sick how would you be able to concentrate on guitar😉 joking aside I hope everyone affected a speedy recovery, and the powers that be get a handle on a awful situation. And hello klasaine thank you for helping out.🤙🤘😁

I'm not usually a paranoid guy but I do believe that the Coronavirus will indeed affect how we now construct the modes of the major scale, especially how we 'import' a major or dominant V chord into an otherwise minor mode.

Back to the program ...
To the OP. You seem to be a bit confused or mistaken about the chord construction of a Major (Ionian) scale. In your original post you note more than once that iv is minor. IV is Major (upper case always for major).
Also, when you refer to seventh chords do you mean 'Dominant' 7th or just stacking the next 3rd on to a triad - ?

*As Kris mentioned - try not to think to think of D dorian as a C major scale starting on D. Yes, it has the same notes but it doesn't function the same.
Because western music only uses 12 notes we are constantly re-classifying and re-organizing them into various sub sets. It's good to know what the parent major scale is but it's not gonna help you sound better.

I think I’m my original post I may have did a typo I get chord construction from the major and minor scale. I was a bit confused on the V chord major and v chord in minor. I think because of the V chord being a dominant 7 I got confused for a second, while I was trying to get everything straight in my head trying to understand the difference between 3 modes before moving on the next mode I want to study.

One thing to remember is that you may want the chord progression to sound dorian, and Am7, Cmaj7, Em7 will enheritely be very similar to a progression in Aminor, as it doesn't have anything that stands out as A dorian. In dorian the raised 6th will set it apart from aeolian, and you might want to have this note in a chord.


For instance a progression starting on the root in the A dorian mode (Am) and having the 4th chord of dorian (D) will probably more so show the listener that you are in A dorian, as you have the F# in there.

Mind you, I'm no expert, so someone with more knowledge can correct me here

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Thank you great advice I also heard this watched a you tube video explaining using chords highlighting the notes of the mode you are using. Not all the info I have been getting has stuck. The more I get get advice I need the more it will stick. The you tube channel was signals music studio. A excellent guitar learning channel.

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