Too Critical Of My Compositions?, I keep scrapping them... |
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Too Critical Of My Compositions?, I keep scrapping them... |
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Jan 28 2012, 01:35 AM |
I feel your pain ~ what I try to do is if I have a main idea written and I need to build a song around it, I'll put my guitar down, listen to what I have, then go out for some coffee and dream the rest of the song round what I have without some physical object limiting me (the guitar).
Ever compose an entire song in your head while sleeping, then wake up and it's gone? or you wake up in the A.M. with an idea in your head. Then you start to write it down, and you lose it or concentrate so much on the catchy part that you lose sight of the rest of the song? Gotta get that dream back so you can write down the structure without the details - worry about the details after you have the structure down - namely the main chord progression structure and rhythm. If any words / sounds stand out as catchy - write them down, but don't expand on them or you'll lose the rest of it! Well, that's what I try to do anyways. Post your idea too - perhaps someone has some idea that will help bridge the gap! -------------------- The more I practice, the more I wish I had time to practice!
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Jan 28 2012, 01:43 AM |
Thanks for the replies, guys. Keep them coming, community.
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Jan 28 2012, 01:53 AM |
i agreed with maharzan here.
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Jan 28 2012, 10:19 AM |
I agree with a lot of what's been said. Don't scrap let the music flow out. If you come back to it and don't like it, that's when the hard work begins and you start analysing what you don't like and rework it. Same with lyrics, have your initial burst of inspiration and don't think to much just get it down, then come back to it and start to structure it and rewrite and rewrite
Also you may 'scrap' a chorus as it doesn't fit but keep it around and you're sure to use it on another piece This post has been edited by PosterBoy: Jan 28 2012, 10:20 AM -------------------- My SoundCloud
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Jan 28 2012, 11:48 AM |
perhaps that's because I'm new to the progressive metal style. This is what I am going for. The verse, pre-chorus, and chorus all sound different from each other, if you know what I mean. I think you know the answer to your questions, you can find it up there! If you are still fresh to the style, learn from other bands that are great in the style, it will get you to new directions. As for the arrangements - make them more similar, simplified, using clean/layering, different drum patterns, but let it be similar. -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Jan 28 2012, 11:51 AM |
just finnish the song
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Jan 28 2012, 06:56 PM |
This is very normal and I think that Cosmin and Ivan's suggestions are so right. At first, you have to enjoy composing music, and you have to let it be natural. Creativity and composition is something that needs to be trained so don't feel that creating a song and then don't using it is a waste of time... it's a process to became the composer that you wish to be. As Ivan said, if you are new to the style, learning and analysing the songs of the bands that you like is the way to go... check how the connect every section, the tonalities, the rhythms, the song's structures, etc. Regarding your songs.. it would be great if you could post an example here of what you feel is happening to let us give you some feedback.
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Jan 28 2012, 10:02 PM |
I totally relate to what you are saying...it can be frustrating,
It's the whole paradox of working hard yet letting go... I try to be as OBJECTIVE as possible with my own compositions...I try to imagine someone else hearing them for the first, play them after something you love (match the volumes so that you can get a similar idea)...when I do this my ideas "last longer" meaning, for the next two weeks or something I STILL LIKE THEM...but that only comes after being devastatingly objective and painfully cold towards the notes you are laying down... You know what happens to me? When I'm stuck I usually last an hour or so, noodling, trying ideas, throwing them away, until I hit a spot! and boom, something is there...it's almost always like this! so the trick for me is (but this is personal) know that it will come even though you're sucking right now, but stick to it, play around with ideas, be a spontaneous hippie, or be an overly calculated mathematician...but stick to it...even spite of the slide headache of fighting with "un-inspiration" ... Lately it's worked for me... -------------------- Visit my:
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Jan 29 2012, 04:34 AM |
Okay. Thanks again guys. I'll post some of my work here to let you have a listen sometime.
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