Kris-must Charm :: Audio Collaboration, GMC students and instructor collab Options

[Darius Wave]

Welcome to...

The KRIS-MUST CHARM collaboration

To celebrate those Christmas together, we've prapared an audio collaboration for all of You The face of the collab is THE MAN himself - Kris Dahl! He was kind enough to prepare this "chocolate box cover type" of photo (I think You could easily sell it to the biggest candy trademarks) - thanx Kris!

So...how it's gonna look like?

1. It's an audio collaboration open for any GMC member, who is able to record a solo over delivered backing track
2. Backing track  kris_must_charm_collab_backing.mp3 ( 1.1MB ) Number of downloads: 900
is simple (key of D-major) and will allow everyone (no matter which skills level ) to join us
3. Deadline to deliver Your solo is 03.01.2015
4. Post Your take in this topic (upload to soundcloud or similar)
5. Post Your files in this topic (mp3 with at least 128 kbps quality,16 bit wav files are warm welcome). We need two files - 1. Your solo without the backing track 2. Your solo mixed with the backing track for reference
6. If You want to join us so much, but You're not able to record guitar separately from the backing track, just give us what You have and We'll try to do our best, to fit it to the final collab mix
7. Tempo of the track is 140. You will save us a bit of time if Your'e able ti mixdown within exact bar markers in Your DAW (easier to sync in the final mix)
8. You can always count for additional help in this particular topic. Just ask - You'll get help from both - students and instructors

..:: TIPS ::...

1. If You feel You're not familiar with major scale, You can use B-aeolina minor scale (it covers exactly the same notes as D-major). Even more simple - You can use just a B-minor pentatonic.

2. Need inspirations? Go to a search box above and review some of the lessons by typing "D-major". You can see some of the cool licks and phrasing tips right from the lessons available at GMC.

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EDIT - RESULTS:

THE FINAL MIX TIME!

First of all I would like to thank every single one of Your for all the effort to make this happen. I think again we brought something great by doing it together and showing it's not the skills level and not the playing genre but the kind of people we are that makes us able to enjoy doing such a collabs together...and "Nothing else matters" Huge hugs to all of You!

Order of Appearance:

1. Jim S. - solo and backing electric guitar
2. Darius Wave - acoustic guitars
3. Rhida and Superize - jam
4. Beat Zbinden
5. HiimAlex
6. Nick6373
7. Huargo
8. Sensible Jones
9. Procyon
10. Renan & Phil66 - jam
11. Bleez + Chris S. - jam
12. DeGroot
13. Monica Gheorghevici
14. Cosmin Lupu
15. Guitarrero
16. Kristofer Dahl - vocal and guitar solo

http://soundcloud.com/dariuswave/kris-must-charm-gmc-students-and-instructors-collaboration

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[Rhida]

So Darius

I still figure how to use reaper with the free plug-ins from Lepou and Line 6 that I put in there.

Kris I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

Anyway I made a new one today with simpler melody and new sound.

So there it is.

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[Kristofer Dahl]

So Darius

I still figure how to use reaper with the free plug-ins from Lepou and Line 6 that I put in there.

Kris I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

Anyway I made a new one today with simpler melody and new sound.

So there it is.

Cool Rhida, I think this simpler structure is more adapted to your current technical level and therefore sounds better. However to me, a take with long sustained notes works well with a distorted sound. But this is obviously a matter of personal preference.

It's really cool to see how devoted you are, as well as all other participants who have started working with this track from day 1!

I have also started jamming a little on this track. I have also worked on tweaking a sound matching Darius/Monica's as I have always wanted to try that, and I have got decently close with an AC30 profile, some compression and touch sensitive EQ.

I have also revived my Parker guitar that had some setup problems, as it's the only guitar I have with an alnico 5 single coil in neck position (cant be sure though, it's an unspecified custom dimarzio pickup). Feels amazing to play that guitar again

@Kris: Back again with a new change over 00:26-00:27. Sorry, but I can't sleep until I will not fix everything in my take
First idea was to make that ritardando for the whole phrase, but I succeed to manage only a "stupidando" This happened because in that part I didn't heard nothing wrong and when I tried to apply the ritardando, I was out off the beat. But I come out with another solution...I changed that phrase and I think it’s more tasty in this way.

Also I know you didn’t pointed, but at 00:13- 00:14 I was a little in front of beat and I played in this way for many times. To be sure that I will not make again this mistake, I changed the accent over notes and I think was a good move because sound definitely much better and gives a more staccato feel.
What you think about how it sound now?

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I think it sounds great! At this point we have started messing quite a bit with your original idea - and although it's a for a good cause we don't want to do it too much as it will kill the original feeling and spontaneity.

However what matters here is the progress we're making and (correct me if I am wrong) but you have got some new input to digest for your coming practicing.

As a longer term goal, what you could try to do is to choose one or two phrases that involve bending, and then play as many different variations on the bends (or rather variations of the phrasing of the bends). This will make sure that when you bend, you don't just think about doing a bend - but you will think about playing a specific type of bend phrasing which you have practiced. People listening will hear (either consciously or sub consciously) you meant to play that bend exactly the way you played it.

Try to phrase those bends around the beat, so that you're in complete control of the timing of them. In slower type of songs, phrasing behind the beat is just unbeatable (no pun intended).

Btw I have played stupidando a whole bunch of time as well today

Hello everyone,

Back again, very similar, timing changed slightly on some parts, different guitar, same settings but with a touch more reverb.

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Cheers

Phil

Thanks Phil,

The third note at 00:05 is off, I think you play it to soon. And there is an out of tune note at 00:10.

But from 00:15 I think it sounds really good. If you are inspired to keep practicing this, I would like to hear you more consciously play behind the beat as well - a bit more "relaxed". If it feels tricky, then you might want to practice some more playing on the beat - so that both your hands know exactly when they should be playing. When you have reached that point, you can try to relax things a little bit, and try to attack the notes a bit slower, try to play some passages just a tad behind the beat. I don't know if this makes sense? I personally think that these kind of details is what turns a great performance into amazing.

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[Phil66]

Thanks Phil,

The third note at 00:05 is off, I think you play it to soon. And there is an out of tune note at 00:10.

But from 00:15 I think it sounds really good. If you are inspired to keep practicing this, I would like to hear you more consciously play behind the beat as well - a bit more "relaxed". If it feels tricky, then you might want to practice some more playing on the beat - so that both your hands know exactly when they should be playing. When you have reached that point, you can try to relax things a little bit, and try to attack the notes a bit slower, try to play some passages just a tad behind the beat. I don't know if this makes sense? I personally think that these kind of details is what turns a great performance into amazing.

Thanks Kristopher,

The note at 10:00 could be out due to too much finger pressure. I swapped from an Ibanez RG1570 to an Epiphone Les Paul and the neck felt a little slippery so I was fretting too hard. Did it sound slightly sharp to you? I do struggle to listen to the backing track closely when playing, ask Cosmin about it, we have struggled for about 100 years
How was the tone for you? I prefer it to the last take.
I'll have another go tomorrow.

Cheers buddy.

Phil

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[Kristofer Dahl]

The note at 10:00 could be out due to too much finger pressure. I swapped from an Ibanez RG1570 to an Epiphone Les Paul and the neck felt a little slippery so I was fretting too hard. Did it sound slightly sharp to you?

Yes, that is most likely the reason!

How was the tone for you? I prefer it to the last take.
I'll have another go tomorrow.

Sorry forgot to say, the tone is waay better. So much warmer, what did you do?

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[Phil66]

Sorry forgot to say, the tone is waay better. So much warmer, what did you do?

Lol, I did say in my post. I swapped Ibz RG1570 for Epiphone Les Paul without stock pups and put a bit more reverb into the sound.
cheers
Phil

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[Kristofer Dahl]

Lol, I did say in my post. I swapped Ibz RG1570 for Epiphone Les Paul without stock pups and put a bit more reverb into the sound.
cheers
Phil

Ok if that's all you did, those pickups must be vastly different from the Ibanez. Hotter and warmer I would guess (sounds just like the vacation I need btw )

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