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Jul 18 2018, 08:37 PM
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My Ibby RG1570 looks the same buddy, as do all of my rosewood necks
 It's the grain within the wood. Nothing to worry about Check THIS out. Cheers Phil -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE  “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jul 18 2018, 09:26 PM
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jul 18 2018, 09:37 PM)  My Ibby RG1570 looks the same buddy, as do all of my rosewood necks It's the grain within the wood. Nothing to worry about Check THIS out. Cheers Phil Thanks a lot Phil your reply was such a relief 
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Jul 19 2018, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE (Anese @ Jul 18 2018, 06:07 PM) and what do you recommend to use for someone like me who cant find guitar care products where he lives in order to take care of guitar necks? as i told you i can find products that may contain waxes, orange oil, natural lemon oil that's used for cocking, ahh and lighter fluids..etc that most thing i felt comfortable about is (linseed oil) usually sued by carpenters around here. I believe the fretboard conditioner I use, Ernie Ball, is simply orange oil. -------------------- Cyber-industrial music and video animations:
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Jul 21 2018, 02:10 AM
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I would not suggest putting orange oil from the grocery on your guitar. It will make it quite sticky and it will attract bugs. What he is talking about in the previous post I beleive, is a product made by ERNIE BALL just for guitar fretboards. Dunlop makes a handy collection of fluids for upkeep on the guitar including a fretboard conditioner. Here is the link to it.
https://www.jimdunlop.com/product/6500-7-10...pe=&from=fn Fretboard conditioner/oil is good in that It gives the wood something to keep it from getting too dry. You can get it over the web from any web site that sells music gear. In Europem THOMANN.de is one of the mos popular. Where are you btw? I remember you telling me that you didn't have music stores at all in your area? Here is a video about using various oils on your fretboard. Hope this helps  QUOTE (Anese @ Jul 19 2018, 02:52 AM) is it natural orange oil? ill try to find this in the grocery
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Jul 24 2018, 01:20 PM
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Seeing that shipping liquids is tricky, maybe a product called Fast Fret is an option. Its not liquid but a hard impregnated rolled cloth.
https://www.amazon.com/GHS-Strings-A87-FAST...4SSV4TBER7WMQT1 Phil This post has been edited by Phil66: Jul 25 2018, 04:52 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jul 25 2018, 09:24 PM
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I LOVE fast fret
But it's really not a freboard conditioner so much as it's basically a lubricant for your strings. In the instructions it says to put it on with the strings still on the guitar. In spray or solid form, fast fret helps to reduce the inherent friction between strings and fingers. I used to use it a LOT when gigging as it makes the strings much slicker and makes it a breeze to shift positions. It will do some degree of fretboard conditioning as a side bonus It's sorta lube for strings. It's cheap so try a bit and see what you think! There are many folks that just HATE fast fret. Some folks even think it's "cheating" (as if guitar were a card game with rules one can break) but to each his own. Todd QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jul 24 2018, 08:20 AM) Seeing that shipping liquids is tricky, maybe a product called Fast Fret is an option. Its not liquid but a hard impregnated rolled cloth.
https://www.amazon.com/GHS-Strings-A87-FAST...4SSV4TBER7WMQT1 Phil |
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Jul 26 2018, 05:01 AM
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QUOTE (Anese @ Jul 19 2018, 06:52 AM) is it natural orange oil? ill try to find this in the grocery tnx I don't know if I'd call orange oil "natural", but any orange oil should be fine on your fretboard since it's common to use it on wood furniture. -------------------- Cyber-industrial music and video animations:
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Jul 26 2018, 10:25 AM
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Yeah I know but in his circumstance it's better than nothing. I sometimes slacken the strings and put the block between strings and onto the fretboard when I'm feeling lazy. It does seem to condition the wood a little.
Phil QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 25 2018, 08:24 PM) I LOVE fast fret But it's really not a freboard conditioner so much as it's basically a lubricant for your strings. In the instructions it says to put it on with the strings still on the guitar. In spray or solid form, fast fret helps to reduce the inherent friction between strings and fingers. I used to use it a LOT when gigging as it makes the strings much slicker and makes it a breeze to shift positions. It will do some degree of fretboard conditioning as a side bonus It's sorta lube for strings. It's cheap so try a bit and see what you think! There are many folks that just HATE fast fret. Some folks even think it's "cheating" (as if guitar were a card game with rules one can break) but to each his own. Todd -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jul 29 2018, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE (Mertay @ Jul 21 2018, 08:11 PM) I used (natural) lemon oil for sometime, wood not too bad but you really have to rub the frets to get it out. And avoid string contact, so use oil clean nicely wash hands then put strings on. Good to hear that, I'll try it on some other guitar next time and see how that goes. Thanks Martay QUOTE (yoncopin @ Jul 21 2018, 08:21 PM) I'd just stick with the linseed oil, I think that is fine. As with any product, you don't need to do it very often. Use a small amount and wipe off all the excess. I'm glad to hear someone has some experience with this Yoncopin  first time i heard about it was on a video submitted by Taylor guitars on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbsCnV2XvdM they recommended boiled linseed oil to condition fret boards. i dug some more around the forums till I came across these posts on a Les paul forum, https://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthre...l-on-Fretboards https://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthre...t=linseed%20oil nothing is official there but from the conversation between those les paul fanatics it seems that Linseed oil was an option among luthiers and guitar techs back in the old times. however they mentioned that it not being used anymore since there's a better options that get the job done now days. So after goin through all of this i can understand that it's safe to apply linseed oil it on rosewood as long as i dont let it set for a long time, in most of the instructions that i found they all recommend to wipe it off after a minute or two maximum. ill share some pics down so you can see how did that go with me. QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 21 2018, 10:07 PM) WOW. Really? I'll assume you are not kidding about this. That's honestly impressive. Not an easy place to be. The bits we get on the news make it look pretty war torn and unstable. I get it now why Music stores are hard to come by and why you are looking for alternatives to the standard commercial products. I put it another post that I once had linseed go sorta rancid and I didn't like the smell. I've used just simple lemon oil that once might use on furniture. It worked just fine. I used it for years before I found the DUNLOP Lemon Oil that seemed to work better and had a different consistency. It was more like lotion and less like pure oil. It sinks in to the wood and the rest wipes off easy. Both my main guitars are rosewood so I've tried wads of things for rosewood. Whatever you try, just put on a few frets before doing the entire neck. I learned that lesson the hard way  Then give it a few days to dry and see what you think of it. Todd I've had linseed oil go rancid on the neck and feel like a plastic layer. I never used it again. I've never had a problem with the fretboard conditioner from Dunlop. It's formulated just for being used on guitar fretboards. In the end, it comes down to the player and what they like, so try a few things on just a few frets to see if you like it and then go with it Todd Hey Todd, I know that might sound a little surprising but yes that were Im from where I live  actually i was quiet comfortable on getting most of my guitar needs online till the turmoil political events started which had a pretty bad effect on our economy and banking services in general. luckily i got my guitar before that happened *phew*. hopefully things will get better in the upcoming years so i can waste some more money on gear and more guitars maybe  I took your advice and instead of applying lineed oil on a fret or two on on my ibby i did it on my old yamaha guitar and waited three days after I applied it to see if anything might go bad. after all i can say that things were pretty good and I liked the feel of it. take a look at the pics below that's the ibby btw not the yamaha. anyhow let me ask you how does it look like when the oil goes rancid ? share some pics and when you applied Linseed oil did you let set for a long time? because i read that it has to be wiped off in short time like a minute or two Thanks again for you help buddy QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jul 24 2018, 02:20 PM) Seeing that shipping liquids is tricky, maybe a product called Fast Fret is an option. Its not liquid but a hard impregnated rolled cloth. https://www.amazon.com/GHS-Strings-A87-FAST...4SSV4TBER7WMQT1 Phil I'm pretty sure that product will come in handy one day, I really like it I really appreciate you help man QUOTE (Rammikin @ Jul 26 2018, 06:01 AM) I don't know if I'd call orange oil "natural", but any orange oil should be fine on your fretboard since it's common to use it on wood furniture. thanks for clarifying that Rammikin i guess ill try that on my old guitar. Here I took some pics of before conditioning the fret board with linseed oil   I even tried to polish the frets with steel wool, i made a fret guard out of a thick gift card, the results were not perfect but somehow satisfying  Here's after i applied the linseed oil on a paper towel then wiped the fret board with it, then took a clean paper towel and wiped off all the excess oil   Thank you all for all the help and advice that was really appreciated
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Jul 30 2018, 07:18 AM
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It takes real heart to drive on and learn an instrument when things are going crazy in the place you live. I say push on!!!!
The neck looks good! You can tell if your neck oil has gone rancid just by the smell. If you sniff the board and it smells really bad, it's gone rancid. But if you wipe it off quickly, just enough should sink in to keep the wood feeling spiff. Todd QUOTE (Anese @ Jul 29 2018, 09:57 AM) Good to hear that, I'll try it on some other guitar next time and see how that goes. Thanks Martay
I'm glad to hear someone has some experience with this Yoncopin first time i heard about it was on a video submitted by Taylor guitars on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbsCnV2XvdM they recommended boiled linseed oil to condition fret boards. i dug some more around the forums till I came across these posts on a Les paul forum, https://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthre...l-on-Fretboards https://www.lespaulforum.com/forum/showthre...t=linseed%20oil nothing is official there but from the conversation between those les paul fanatics it seems that Linseed oil was an option among luthiers and guitar techs back in the old times. however they mentioned that it not being used anymore since there's a better options that get the job done now days. So after goin through all of this i can understand that it's safe to apply linseed oil it on rosewood as long as i dont let it set for a long time, in most of the instructions that i found they all recommend to wipe it off after a minute or two maximum. ill share some pics down so you can see how did that go with me. Hey Todd, I know that might sound a little surprising but yes that were Im from where I live actually i was quiet comfortable on getting most of my guitar needs online till the turmoil political events started which had a pretty bad effect on our economy and banking services in general. luckily i got my guitar before that happened *phew*. hopefully things will get better in the upcoming years so i can waste some more money on gear and more guitars maybe I took your advice and instead of applying lineed oil on a fret or two on on my ibby i did it on my old yamaha guitar and waited three days after I applied it to see if anything might go bad. after all i can say that things were pretty good and I liked the feel of it. take a look at the pics below that's the ibby btw not the yamaha. anyhow let me ask you how does it look like when the oil goes rancid ? share some pics and when you applied Linseed oil did you let set for a long time? because i read that it has to be wiped off in short time like a minute or two Thanks again for you help buddy I'm pretty sure that product will come in handy one day, I really like it I really appreciate you help man thanks for clarifying that Rammikin i guess ill try that on my old guitar. Here I took some pics of before conditioning the fret board with linseed oil I even tried to polish the frets with steel wool, i made a fret guard out of a thick gift card, the results were not perfect but somehow satisfying Here's after i applied the linseed oil on a paper towel then wiped the fret board with it, then took a clean paper towel and wiped off all the excess oil Thank you all for all the help and advice that was really appreciated |
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