Watch Rory Define Classic Blues.
Phil66
Aug 29 2021, 10:13 PM
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This is the kind of thing I would love to learn but it seems a mountain to climb.

Here's the article
https://www.guitarplayer.com/players/watch-...m_medium=social

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https://youtu.be/cdf-QKyLeOs


Let me know your thoughts please, he was one of the best and I think that it was an act never witnessed of Rory and SRV sharing the stage, that would have been awesome if they'd cut heads.

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Aug 29 2021, 10:48 PM
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Rory Gallagher was a force of nature like Hendrix and the influences are similar.
If you want to get some of Rory's thing - American blues is where you need to look.

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Aug 30 2021, 01:02 AM
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I say go for it smile.gif What you get out of it will be a great thing for your playing imho. Even learning a little would be spiff.

QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 29 2021, 05:13 PM) *
This is the kind of thing I would love to learn but it seems a mountain to climb.

https://www.guitarplayer.com/players/watch-...m_medium=social

Let me know your thoughts please, he was one of the best and I think that it was an act never witnessed of Rory and SRV sharing the stage, that would have been awesome if they'd cut heads.

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Phil66
Aug 30 2021, 09:31 AM
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It's not so much that particular song, just his whole style and technique. I am working on blues rock with Gab, there's a lot more to the blues than folks realise though I know most on here will know.

It's all the looseness in the delivery, the subtle ornaments, the feel, the whole thing that makes it so great but so hard to get down, for me anyway.

Satch sums it up here

https://youtu.be/mOLbCeagJ0k

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Aug 31 2021, 01:50 AM
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Aug 30 2021, 01:31 AM) *
It's all the looseness in the delivery, the subtle ornaments, the feel, the whole thing that makes it so great but so hard to get down, for me anyway.


This will be an unpopular comment, especially within the context of a 'teaching' website but those things you mention in the quote above - those are not techniques one learns so to speak. Sure, you can work on a particular type of ornament but where you put it within the context of whatever song you happen to be soloing on cannot be premeditated. It's really important to understand that all those guys were "improvising". They never played anything the same way twice. That's a major part of the aesthetic of that music. Obviously there's a vocabulary but you're supposed to make it up night after night. Of course there's a looseness in the delivery because 1) he's totally confident about what he's doing at the moment and just letting it happen, and 2) he doesn't know what he's gonna do next. Or for that matter, what the band is gonna do next. It's all dependent on what else is going on around him at that moment. That's the beauty of it and what makes "it", it.

There's really nothing to 'work on'.
Listen to the blues. Play the blues.
A lot!

*No one sounds like Rory, or Jimi or Stevie or whomever - pick your iconic soloist. The imitators are cloudy mirrors reflecting something they will never attain ... and should stop trying.

In the context of the blues, maybe more than any other genre - you can be yourself.

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Aug 31 2021, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Aug 31 2021, 01:50 AM) *
This will be an unpopular comment


I'm not sure it will be unpopular, I fully understand and agree with your comment, creating one's own music, solos, sound etc isn't easy, that's the very reason there are so many cover bands, I mean how many AC/DC cover bands are in your town alone? And how many original bands are there?

The teaching website can teach you how to build a wall, how to build a doorway, a fireplace, a chimney etc but it can't teach you how to design the house of your dreams, that's down to you and as with music, if you don't have that creative spark then you're going to struggle. Just because one can read and write, doesn't mean one can write a gripping novel.

Having said that, we can be guided to improve our compositions by those who are accomplished.

When I first dabbled in guitar as a teenager, I thought improvising "must be easy because you just play what you want", I couldn't have been further from the truth.

Thanks for your great input as per usual Ken cool.gif

Interesting Rory article here http://rockandrollgarage.com/brian-may-exp...s-guitar-sound/

Phil

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Aug 31 2021, 09:57 AM
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Cool discussion!

I think it fits within the context of an instructional site - especially GMC 😎 . We do have focus on improvisation, spontaneity and originality.

I think it's important to also teach concepts rather than just specific licks, techniques etc.

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Well said! in the end it comes down to the player doing actual playing. The bits that one can be taught are just scaffolding to support creative expression imho.

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Cool discussion!

I think it fits within the context of an instructional site - especially GMC 😎 . We do have focus on improvisation, spontaneity and originality.

I think it's important to also teach concepts rather than just specific licks, techniques etc.

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