Studios Abandoning Mic.ing Cab.s |
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Studios Abandoning Mic.ing Cab.s |
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Feb 22 2018, 06:15 PM |
Technology makes the things more accesible for everyone and I don't see how this can be a negative situation. In the end, the most important thing will be how the human factor and how creative we are dealing with modern and vintage technologies. I don't think that evolution is a bad thing.
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Feb 22 2018, 06:26 PM |
Probably has as much to do with available 'space' as with anything else.
Most of the young guys and gals that record/produce out here still like to mic amps, use vintage keyboards and synths, etc. We generally have the space to accommodate that. This post has been edited by klasaine: Feb 22 2018, 06:26 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Feb 22 2018, 08:12 PM |
My idea of a good engineer (if I'm not going to record at home and ready to pay) isn't placing an sm57 and call it a day, using multi-mic.s or cab.s (if possible in a high ceiling room) to blend a sound+collab. work with the engineer can bring a very original sound. And this is a not so expensive studio example, high-end studios offer vintage amps or ready to record (isolated) cab.s etc... I mean, whats the point going to a studio anyway if the experience isn't anything near like this? What bothered more was does no one cares anymore to have at least some level of original/signature sound? You'll still have the possibility of going for that kind of engineer, studio and or production while you'll also have new approaches and horizons, who can predict where all this is going. The lack of originality in sound was also happening during the 80's, 90's, 00's, so it's not related to new technologies. What about all those hair/glam metal bands from the 80's that sounding like the same band, the same for the post grunge bands, or even New Metal or Pop Punk ones. On the other hand, I don't think that Fractal or Kemper will make guitar amps extinct, there will always be a market for them, and there will be always producers and musicians that preffer the real thing. -------------------- My lessons
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Feb 22 2018, 09:54 PM |
I've recorded live guitar in every manner of 'space' you could imagine from 'Sunset Sound' and 'Capitol Records' to an apartment's tiny bathroom, a closet, in the bedroom with the computer or the kitchen, etc. It's just not that hard to get a good guitar sound (clean or dirty) regardless of the space or the mic.
Believe me, I completely understand doing EVERYTHING in the box if you truly are dealing with a college dorm room sized functional space but if you even just have a tiny closet, you can turn it into an iso booth even if it's just for 3 hours. If you're serious, take the clothes and crap out of it for a day or two. That's what everybody did/does. This post has been edited by klasaine: Feb 23 2018, 03:19 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Feb 22 2018, 10:34 PM |
If every studio is going to abandon that goal in the future then the purpose of a studio to exist has no meaning. If you look at how many studios in LA have closed in the past 10 years, it's clear that, for many projects, the purpose of a studio has disappeared. Yes, there is magic in some famous studios, but there's magic to be found everywhere if you know how to look for it. -------------------- Cyber-industrial music and video animations:
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Feb 23 2018, 03:47 AM |
Different question then just because I'm curious; When was the last time anyone discussed, commented or even appreciated the "sound" of an album? But it must be clear its not about artistic, compositional or individual instrument by what I mean by sound. For example, it was most argued among my friends who were into electronica (like running them through vintage recording equipment, even noisey ones) while recording engineers usually prefer discussing dark side of the moon album. PS; The term I use "sound" might be something else in USA or Europe? to further example of what I mean, like picking an album you'd like to listen on a super expensive hi-fi to appreciate the big picture. I do. All the time. One of the things that bores me to tears with most recorded music in ALL genres post 2000 or so is that the records, most of them, 'sound' like shit. And a lot of the same shit at that. This post has been edited by klasaine: Feb 23 2018, 05:21 AM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Feb 23 2018, 08:42 AM |
Different question then just because I'm curious; When was the last time anyone discussed, commented or even appreciated the "sound" of an album? But it must be clear its not about artistic, compositional or individual instrument by what I mean by sound. For example, it was most argued among my friends who were into electronica (like running them through vintage recording equipment, even noisey ones) while recording engineers usually prefer discussing dark side of the moon album. PS; The term I use "sound" might be something else in USA or Europe? to further example of what I mean, like picking an album you'd like to listen on a super expensive hi-fi to appreciate the big picture. I do when something stands out as "good" or "bad" production. Especially when I pull something out like Couldn't Stand The Weather by Stevie Ray Vaughan, I love the production on that album. -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 24 2018, 02:17 PM |
I think it's inevitable the way records are tracked nowadays, and the dwindling budget to record. It's so much cheaper to be able to reamp and try different cab and mic IRs after the guitar etc has been recorded rather.
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Feb 24 2018, 04:12 PM |
PS; The term I use "sound" might be something else in USA or Europe? Are you saying it might mean something different in Istanbul than it does in Izmir? . Seriously though, yes, I think that's the right word. -------------------- Cyber-industrial music and video animations:
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Feb 24 2018, 04:39 PM |
I think it's inevitable the way records are tracked nowadays, and the dwindling budget to record. It's so much cheaper to be able to reamp and try different cab and mic IRs after the guitar etc has been recorded rather. Hence damn near every band having the same guitar sound. This directly relates to Todd's thread about modern metal guitar tones. One plays to the sound. Or they should. It absolutely affects how a player approaches the song. Pick attack, note length, phrasing, dynamics, etc. Change the sound in post and the note lengths and dynamics change. Re-amping has been around since the late 60s. Taking a pre recorded guitar (or bass or even drum) sound/part out of the board (via a reversed DI) and into a different amp (and rec'd on another track) is nothing new. Making it the modus operandi is one of the things that make all this shit so fucking boring and generic. Pick a sound. Commit. It'll sound better and be better. Have a 'sound'. People may actually want to listen. *I would also argue that it's not cheaper. 1) constantly re-amping and/or scrolling though several dozens (to potentially 100s) of tones and IRs takes forever. And whether you feel it or not - time is money. 2) A decent amp, a couple of good ODs and an SM 57 aren't that expensive. This post has been edited by klasaine: Feb 24 2018, 05:05 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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