To True Bypass Or To Not True Bypass |
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To True Bypass Or To Not True Bypass |
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Jan 26 2009, 10:35 PM |
Hmm, sounds strange, true bypass should be less damage IF it's true bypass.
But one thing is certain, more pedals you have in chain the more of signal you lose, each new cable/jack/pedal is another step in losing signal anyhow. I read interview with Pete in GP magazine once and I remember he said many things about true bypass, gonna check if I can find that issue. -------------------- Youtube
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Jan 26 2009, 10:52 PM |
Hmm this will be an interesting thread..I heard that true bypass is a better option since signal travels directly through the pedal (if you don't have batteries in it sill works)...But actually don't own such pedals so I can't tell for sure which one is better..One thing I can tell is that lots of non true bypass pedals really eat your tone..I can really hear it on my bass..
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Jan 26 2009, 11:15 PM |
Yeah. Some pedals, like my Boss PH-3 Phaser for example can REEEEAAALLY eat your tone/signal/volume. and yeah, it's a phaser, but still... Compared to my micro POG which isn't true bypass either the PH-3 has a mean appetite.. You mean it eats your tone when it's ON? -------------------- Youtube
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Jan 26 2009, 11:28 PM |
Allright. Ever since I got into pedals I've heard this rant about the importance of true bypass and not loosing tone/colouring your sound/volume loss and so on. But according to some (Pete Cornish [david gilmours guitar tech] for example) a pedalboard/chain WITH true bypass circutry actually damages the sound/signal more than a path WÍTH OUT. What's everyones take on this thing? It'd be great to hear some comments/advice/opinions from instructors as well as other members.. I think the idea here is that in a true bypass chain the signal will get weaker and weaker throughout it's entire length if you don't have them "on". In a chain where the pedals aren't true bypass the signal will maybe be coloroed but it'll keep it's strength? A SGI box would keep the signal strength in up to 100 meter of cords so I suppose that would be a solution to it. -------------------- My bands homepage
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Jan 26 2009, 11:37 PM |
True bypass feature is not something that will help a lot. The tone will be sucked out the more pedals you have - true or not true bypass. The signal is lost in connections and solder points in cables, so IMO it is far better to have high quality cables than true bypass option on all the pedals.
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Jan 27 2009, 02:20 AM |
I think the idea here is that in a true bypass chain the signal will get weaker and weaker throughout it's entire length if you don't have them "on". In a chain where the pedals aren't true bypass the signal will maybe be coloroed but it'll keep it's strength? Yep - that's exact;y the argument Micke ... so, perhaps one pedal with true bypass would be better than one pedal without, but 10 pedlas all with true bypass would prbably lose a LOT of signal, wheras 10 pedlas with untrue bypass would at least buffer the signal and keep the level up. -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Jan 27 2009, 11:32 AM
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But what if I had, let's say 10 pedals all true bypass. What would be a nice solution? Would a booster do the trick? And if so, where should I place it in the chain?
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Jan 27 2009, 11:35 AM |
But what if I had, let's say 10 pedals all true bypass. What would be a nice solution? Would a booster do the trick? And if so, where should I place it in the chain? I belive what I suggest will work. A SGI box would keep the signal strength in up to 100 meter of cords so I suppose that would be a solution to it. You place one unit first in the chain and one last. -------------------- My bands homepage
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Jan 27 2009, 11:46 PM |
The Pete Cornish article was a sidebar in the May 2008 issue of Guitar Player Magazine, page 73. It's just a couple hundred words. I'll transcribe it for reference if you all think we can get away with that. I checked their online articles, it's not there.
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Jan 27 2009, 11:50 PM |
Here's a Pete Cornish article on this topic
http://www.petecornish.co.uk/case_against_true_bypass.html -------------------- GMC Travel Agent, at your service.
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Jan 28 2009, 12:27 AM |
Here's a Pete Cornish article on this topic http://www.petecornish.co.uk/case_against_true_bypass.html Oh great, thanks! -------------------- Youtube
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Jan 28 2009, 01:08 AM |
Cool article man, thanks for sharing!
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Jan 28 2009, 08:52 AM |
The Pete Cornish article was a sidebar in the May 2008 issue of Guitar Player Magazine, page 73. It's just a couple hundred words. I'll transcribe it for reference if you all think we can get away with that. I checked their online articles, it's not there. Very kind offer but I'd imagine GP would hold copyright on it. Even if it's not on their site at the moment it would still be an infringement of that copyright. Whilst you can't transcribe it you could however post a link to it - if GP put it back up . Cheers, Tony -------------------- Get your music professionally mastered by anl AES registered Mastering Engineer. Contact me for Audio Mastering Services and Advice and visit our website www.miromastering.com
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