Make A Fret Less Guitar At Home, Anybody tried it? |
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Dec 16 2011, 05:39 PM
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I've never done it. Let's see if we have somebody with experience here..
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Dec 16 2011, 10:33 PM
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Believe it or not,these days I thought the same thing. I also have a 'written-off' guitar so I'll try to see what will turn out.
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Dec 16 2011, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE (TesttubeMammoth @ Dec 16 2011, 11:09 PM)  Beware though, setting up a fretless is a bit different... Explain please |
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Dec 17 2011, 04:41 AM
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Here ya go guys!
You can find just about anything on youtube  This guy used a soldering iron to heat the frets to get the glue underneath to let go, and filled the gaps with epoxy resin then sanded, he doesnt show that part about the epoxy but explains it a bit. Hope this helps to get you started.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAHhUa_0qrE...feature=related Peace! Rich... |
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Dec 17 2011, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE (Sinisa Cekic @ Dec 16 2011, 10:49 PM) Explain please Well, I guess the main problem for me was the way the reference points had changed. Generally when I set the action on a guitar I will use fret buzz as an indicator that I have gone too far. The concept of fret buzz doesn't really exist on a fretless, instead it is about finding a string height / tone that you are happy with - this introduces subjectivity which complicates things. Also setting the neck relief is a little different because of the lack of frets, without a straight edge to measure against it is easy to get this wrong. I find it more difficult to use the strings to measure the neck relief on a fretless because the reference points are different to what I am used to. The way I generally do this is set the truss dead straight with a straight edge (really straight, like this one : http://www.stewmac.com/shopby/item/3850 ) then adjust the action until I find something I am happy with. It is worth measuring the action you have set with a small accurate ruler and keeping a note of it so you don't have to go through the process of finding it again. This technique works well with fretted / unfretted instruments I find and for me it is way more accurate than trying to set these things by eye alone. More importantly, I can repeat the process easily without spending hours fiddling. As for filling the gaps left by the frets, I never bothered! Mind you, this is a bass and the strings are much fatter so it doesn't make much difference. With a guitar I am sure you would have issues though. I would probably try and use the same stuff they make inlays from if I was going to do that though, then sand it flush. Sorry for bigging up StewMac so much but they have this stuff too! http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Inlay,_pearl/T...3&xsr=22989 Hope this helps Oh, and yes it did work! This post has been edited by TesttubeMammoth: Dec 17 2011, 10:48 AM -------------------- be excellent to each other
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Dec 17 2011, 11:16 PM
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That's an explanation
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Dec 18 2011, 07:33 AM
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QUOTE (TesttubeMammoth @ Dec 17 2011, 09:47 AM) Well, I guess the main problem for me was the way the reference points had changed. Generally when I set the action on a guitar I will use fret buzz as an indicator that I have gone too far. The concept of fret buzz doesn't really exist on a fretless, instead it is about finding a string height / tone that you are happy with - this introduces subjectivity which complicates things. Also setting the neck relief is a little different because of the lack of frets, without a straight edge to measure against it is easy to get this wrong. I find it more difficult to use the strings to measure the neck relief on a fretless because the reference points are different to what I am used to. The way I generally do this is set the truss dead straight with a straight edge (really straight, like this one : http://www.stewmac.com/shopby/item/3850 ) then adjust the action until I find something I am happy with. It is worth measuring the action you have set with a small accurate ruler and keeping a note of it so you don't have to go through the process of finding it again. This technique works well with fretted / unfretted instruments I find and for me it is way more accurate than trying to set these things by eye alone. More importantly, I can repeat the process easily without spending hours fiddling. As for filling the gaps left by the frets, I never bothered! Mind you, this is a bass and the strings are much fatter so it doesn't make much difference. With a guitar I am sure you would have issues though. I would probably try and use the same stuff they make inlays from if I was going to do that though, then sand it flush. Sorry for bigging up StewMac so much but they have this stuff too! http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Inlay,_pearl/T...3&xsr=22989 Hope this helps Oh, and yes it did work! Thanks man that was very helpful!!!!! -------------------- |
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Dec 19 2011, 03:47 PM
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Let us know how it goes! I would love to do that as well
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Dec 20 2011, 11:06 PM
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I just watched refretting tutorial, that's pretty advanced, and requires lots of tools. Not sure what's the deal with fretless guitar, but I bet it will sound cool!
Good luck Alex with the project!
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Dec 26 2011, 01:13 PM
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Great, if everything works out well, I'm creating the next one
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