QUOTE (fkalich @ Jul 8 2008, 08:30 PM)
You are making the same mistake, as is made in the way history is taught to children today. looking as someone from an epoch, and judging him based on standards you have grown up with more recently.
He has no signature statement because he is the most influential heavy guitarist of all time, and his signature statement is what is embedded in what everyone plays today. I am not sure you are the one to do justice to JP, considering how you look at him. I vote for Gabriel.
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QUOTE (fkalich @ Jul 8 2008, 10:24 PM)
I didn't take offense. People here are way to guarded. Nothing wrong with acting normal, like we all do in social settings, so long as we don't get personal. I don't listen to him any more. Nor do I consider it easy to do a lesson on him, as his influence has been so broad. Specifically in those first 5 albums. I mean, take any of a number of songs. Say, Black Dog. That off rhythm bass line that goes through the song. I invite anyone to find anybody else who did something like this prior to JP. Maybe you can find it, if you look hard enough, but I doubt it. He was innovative, and was so over 5 albums. I can name song after song. Nothing special now, but again, take any, Immigrant song. Find a song like that before Page. "Thank You", find one like that. Composition after composition. Sure not original when people follow that template now, but it sure was then. And in his time, tell me who was appreciably more skilled. Of course he is crap now compared to others.
I am not saying there is any use in a JP lesson today. But I also think that it is easy as time goes by, for people to forget who were the real innovators, and overestimate how creative, innovative their current favorites really are.
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QUOTE (fkalich @ Jun 11 2009, 12:48 AM)
Correct. To understand past events, times, in a correct way, you have to be able to forget everything that has happened since those times, and look at them in that context. If you forget everything after 1972, and look at Zep, they sure stand out head and shoulders above anyone else that preceded them. If you look at the Beatles and forget everything after 1963, they stand out like a sky scraper in small town in Iowa. That is how you have to look at it. Anybody in the past few decades like that? Don't think so.
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For once I have to agree with you!
People say he has no unique style and in a way that's true because he fiddled around and mixed lots of styles.
Which, to me, in some way is what defined Page's style.
He "stole" a lot from the old blues guys, amongst others, but I would rather call it "got inspired from" than "stole from".
If someone says Paige stole and had no unique style he must admit by that standard that there haven't been many blues players with their own material and unique style. That's how the blues spread, by inspiring other players. Or, if prefered, stealing from each other.
What surprises me with Paige is his interrest and understanding of different blues aspects. Where did he get that from?
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