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tonyk View Member Profile	Mar 3 2013, 06:44 AM
Mar 3 2013, 06:44 AM	GMC:er Posts: 180 Joined: 27-December 11 From: australia	Hi.I have a progression with A7 -Dmaj.A7 is acting as secondary dom. It was suggested to me that over the A7 I should play 5th mode of D harmonic minor. Is this a suitable scale to use.I was thinking A mix was better choice.Thanks You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

The Professor View Member Profile	Mar 3 2013, 09:10 AM
Mar 3 2013, 09:10 AM	Theory Instructor Posts: 888 Joined: 8-January 13 From: Manchester UK	Hey. I would go with A mixo if it resolves to a Dmaj7 chord. Probably a better fit. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Ask me anything on the theory board. Follow my theory course. Check out my personal site

tonyk View Member Profile	Mar 3 2013, 10:34 AM
Mar 3 2013, 10:34 AM	GMC:er Posts: 180 Joined: 27-December 11 From: australia	Thanks.does the fact that next cord was just D change your thinking ie not maj7 You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

The Professor View Member Profile	Mar 3 2013, 10:48 AM
Mar 3 2013, 10:48 AM	Theory Instructor Posts: 888 Joined: 8-January 13 From: Manchester UK	QUOTE (tonyk @ Mar 3 2013, 09:34 AM) Thanks.does the fact that next cord was just D change your thinking ie not maj7 Not really. If it was Dm then I would say 5th mode Harmonic Minor would be a good choice. So it's the maj7 that makes me think Mixo, since A mixo is the same notes as D major. That's all. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Ask me anything on the theory board. Follow my theory course. Check out my personal site

klasaine View Member Profile	Mar 3 2013, 06:22 PM
Mar 3 2013, 06:22 PM	GMC:er Posts: 4.552 Joined: 30-December 12 From: Los Angeles, CA	By the way, A7 in this case is not a secondary dominant. A7 is just the V of D (maj/min or maj7). A 'secondary' dominant would be (in the key of D maj) E7, F#7 or B7. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ken Lasaine https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d

tonyk View Member Profile	Mar 3 2013, 09:06 PM
Mar 3 2013, 09:06 PM	GMC:er Posts: 180 Joined: 27-December 11 From: australia	Thanks Ken.rest of progression was in G harmonic minor Gm Eb A7 D G7 Cm Ab D7 You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

The Professor View Member Profile	Mar 3 2013, 09:07 PM
Mar 3 2013, 09:07 PM	Theory Instructor Posts: 888 Joined: 8-January 13 From: Manchester UK	Yeah, if you are in G minor then A7 is a secondary dominant, but if it moves to the key of D major, then it's a new key so not Secondary. All depends on where it goes and for how long from that A7 chord . You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Ask me anything on the theory board. Follow my theory course. Check out my personal site

casinostrat View Member Profile	Mar 3 2013, 09:37 PM
Mar 3 2013, 09:37 PM	GMC:er Posts: 452 Joined: 20-January 10 From: The Appalachian Mountains	QUOTE (klasaine @ Mar 3 2013, 05:22 PM) A 'secondary' dominant would be (in the key of D maj) E7, F#7 or B7. Basically thats the 2nd, 3rd, and 6th degrees of the D major scale, right? So what would normally be E minor, F# Minor and B Minor would become E7, F#7, or B7 if they were turned into secondary Dominants? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Sound Cloud Profile: http://soundcloud.com/casinostrat Gear I Use: Guitars: Gibson: Les Paul Custom, ES-339, and Faded Flying V Fender: American Stratocaster Deluxe (I think?) Epiphone: Les Paul 56' Gold Top and Les Paul Standard, Casino Yamaha: FG720S Accoustic Amps: Fender Champ, Peavey Bandit 112, and an ancient Epiphone Amp:) Effects: Digitech RP 500 Effects Pedal Picks: Dunlop Jazz IIIs Practice, Practice, Practice, and remember Every Artist Does Get Better Eventually!

The Professor View Member Profile	Mar 3 2013, 09:47 PM
Mar 3 2013, 09:47 PM	Theory Instructor Posts: 888 Joined: 8-January 13 From: Manchester UK	Well it could be a secondary dominant. Basically, a sec dom is any 7th chord in a key that resolves to a chord that is not the tonic, and that doesn't cause a modulation, though that is debatable. So, if you are in G minor, then anything but D7 is a sec dom unless it leads to a new key center, so if it went A7-Dmaj7-D7-Gm then it is a sec dom since it didn't leave the original key, just took a detour. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Ask me anything on the theory board. Follow my theory course. Check out my personal site

tonyk View Member Profile	Mar 3 2013, 10:05 PM
Mar 3 2013, 10:05 PM	GMC:er Posts: 180 Joined: 27-December 11 From: australia	QUOTE (The Professor @ Mar 3 2013, 08:47 PM) Well it could be a secondary dominant. Basically, a sec dom is any 7th chord in a key that resolves to a chord that is not the tonic, and that doesn't cause a modulation, though that is debatable. So, if you are in G minor, then anything but D7 is a sec dom unless it leads to a new key center, so if it went A7-Dmaj7-D7-Gm then it is a sec dom since it didn't leave the original key, just took a detour. Key was G harm min. Gm Eb A7 D7 G7 Cm Ab D7 A7 & G7 sec Dom and Ab Neapolitan chord Was confused why I was recommended to use 5th mode of D harm min over A7 You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

The Professor View Member Profile	Mar 3 2013, 10:11 PM
Mar 3 2013, 10:11 PM	Theory Instructor Posts: 888 Joined: 8-January 13 From: Manchester UK	Yeah. To me that is a V of V of V progression resolving to the Cm. So it is a "dominant chain" progression. You could use 5 th mode HM. But I think mixo or 4th mode Melodc Minor over those chords. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- Ask me anything on the theory board. Follow my theory course. Check out my personal site

tonyk View Member Profile	Mar 3 2013, 10:16 PM
Mar 3 2013, 10:16 PM	GMC:er Posts: 180 Joined: 27-December 11 From: australia	QUOTE (The Professor @ Mar 3 2013, 09:11 PM) Yeah. To me that is a V of V of V progression resolving to the Cm. So it is a "dominant chain" progression. You could use 5 th mode HM. But I think mixo or 4th mode Melodc Minor over those chords. Thanks You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

klasaine View Member Profile	Mar 4 2013, 03:30 AM
Mar 4 2013, 03:30 AM	GMC:er Posts: 4.552 Joined: 30-December 12 From: Los Angeles, CA	QUOTE (tonyk @ Mar 3 2013, 08:06 PM) Thanks Ken.rest of progression was in G harmonic minor Gm Eb A7 D G7 Cm Ab D7 Sorry, had no idea you were in Gm. Yes - simplified, a sec/dom in a major key (as long as we stay diatonic) would be those minor chords turned into dominant 7ths. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- - Ken Lasaine* https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d

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