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Sep 6 2009, 08:43 PM
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I have been practicing the minor pentatonic scale. Should I completely know this scale inside and out before learning a different scale or learn multiple ones at once?
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Sep 6 2009, 11:23 PM |
You can perhaps turn around the question.
Will you be able to play minor pentatonic for years and put all other music gems a side for such a long time? I guess Conrad is right, no need to stick with one, learn as many as possible, it's never ending game tho, nothing is fully learned, fretboard is huuuuge. -------------------- Youtube
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Sep 7 2009, 08:28 AM |
Learn as much as you can and use what sounds good. If you only learn one you won't have many options
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Sep 8 2009, 01:40 AM
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Learn as much as you can and use what sounds good. If you only learn one you won't have many options Thank You all for the help. |
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Sep 8 2009, 06:25 AM |
I have been practicing the minor pentatonic scale. Should I completely know this scale inside and out before learning a different scale or learn multiple ones at once? You should follow Ivan's excellent lesson on this in his Pentatonic Workshop series. Using this you can learn the 5 box positions relatively quickly. https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...ming-exercises/ -------------------- "I dreamed a lot when I was younger.. I'm older now but still I hunger For some understanding. There's no understanding, now. Was there ever? ...Joe Puerta (Ambrosia)... Finally got a YouTube page going. |
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Sep 8 2009, 07:15 AM |
I would advise learning other scales as well but it is entirely up to you how you want to sound
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Sep 8 2009, 12:01 PM |
I have been practicing the minor pentatonic scale. Should I completely know this scale inside and out before learning a different scale or learn multiple ones at once? This is up to you mate. In order not to get confused while learning, it can be good to learn the pentatonic scale as a whole pattern and then start with another scale and so on. If you are starting to learn scales, these are the ones that you really have to go through: - pentatonic scales (5 modes) - diatonic scales (7 modes) check out my pentatonic and diatonic lessons for this: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...ming-exercises/ https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/master...n_caged_method/]\ let me know if I can help you with this further. cheers. -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Sep 8 2009, 12:09 PM |
This is up to you mate. In order not to get confused while learning, it can be good to learn the pentatonic scale as a whole pattern and then start with another scale and so on. If you are starting to learn scales, these are the ones that you really have to go through: - pentatonic scales (5 modes) - diatonic scales (7 modes) check out my pentatonic and diatonic lessons for this: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...ming-exercises/ https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/master...n_caged_method/]\ let me know if I can help you with this further. cheers. When you say "modes" do you mean Boxes/patterns? -------------------- When I look in the mirror I see a face-melting guitar shredder.... maybe my mirror tells the future?
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Sep 8 2009, 03:26 PM |
No, not box patterns - for every degree (note) of a scale, you will find another one starts there..for example, if you take the G major scale, the second note is A...if you follow the G major pattern from the A you have A Dorian - these are called modes. Give us a shout if you want more info on them! i will at some point Conrad! I think i need to learn the major scales first. I've learn all the boxes of the minor pentatonic so its time to learn another scale -------------------- When I look in the mirror I see a face-melting guitar shredder.... maybe my mirror tells the future?
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Sep 8 2009, 04:45 PM |
i will at some point Conrad! I think i need to learn the major scales first. I've learn all the boxes of the minor pentatonic so its time to learn another scale That's a good decision. I am working on it with Dexxter and some others at the moment. Check Dexxter's Mtp Thread where I left the chart, video and the rest. He's already doing a great job with it. -------------------- Check out my <a href="https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/instructor/Emir-Hot" target="_blank">Instructor profile</a>
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Sep 8 2009, 05:58 PM |
When you say "modes" do you mean Boxes/patterns? More specifically, patterns are the note layouts on the guitar fretboard and the patterns from those lessons that I provided contain modes within. Modes are scales, and scale is universal term, quote from wiki: QUOTE group of musical notes collected in ascending and descending order There are however lots of different patterns that are not modes, for example arpeggio or chord patterns. -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Sep 8 2009, 06:39 PM |
I don't even know the pentatonic scales, but I do know 3-note-per-string pattern all over the neck. This just interested me more, because it could be played faster, so I learned it. I've done multiple attempts to master the pentatonic scale, but never succeeded. When I need to improvise over a pentatonic pattern, I just use my modal knowledge, and skip the 2nd and the 6th of the minor or major scale. That's what a pentatonic IS in a first place, major or minor scale with 2 missed notes. This post has been edited by Muris Varajic: Sep 8 2009, 06:46 PM -------------------- Youtube
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Sep 9 2009, 11:11 PM |
I hate to bust in on this thread, but could you maybe give me an example when it will sound horrible when I play the diatonic minor scale instead of the pentatonic minor scale ? Just so I understand ? That one great question imo but the answer is not that easy to be found. The thing is with our ears and how they are "raised" by us. If you listen a lot to Iron Maiden (just an example) you'll become comfortable with use of full diatonic scale ( minor scale mostly) in solos. On the other hand if you're into Blues a lot you'll enjoy pentatonic most of the time. And those 2 scales DO sound different, they give different moods. Have you ever tried to play full minor scale over a blues progression, over and over? Somehow it just sounds wrong, too mellow, maybe even naive, right? 2nd degree and 6th degree (specially minor 6th), they just don't fit the mood. And that;s whey people tend to use Dorian a lot in Blues to spice things up a little, they even just add major 6th to pentatonic, still avoiding 2nd. I compared you to pretty different genres here, Metal and Blues, but if you listen to different kinds of music you'll also figure out how to create different solos using different scales, talking about minor scale vs. minor pentatonic only, you can switch between in the same solo to get different colors from both scales. Maybe my explanation isn't that easy to understand cause you really have to play different stuff to feel them in a right way, you'll get there eventually. -------------------- Youtube
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