G String Issue
Phil66
May 3 2016, 08:30 PM
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Hello folks,

On one of my guitars, (PRS SE Ace) the G string on the 16th fret dies out much quicker than anywhere else, it seems to be holding the note and then it suddenly decays.

Is this a job for a tech or is there something I can try?

Cheers

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Mertay
May 27 2016, 04:02 PM
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Actually when googled one can see all sort of brands and models of guitars having this issue, we want to the body and neck to vibrate as its a sign of tone but this is the very downside of it-otherwise guitars would have to be extremely heavy or alternativly we consider the guitar dead sounding.

The body and neck resonances to a specific freq. while the strings can change to whatever we play, something like a phase cancellation is bound to happen somewhere among those freq.s (thats why I'd like to try slight de-tuning, hopefully it will help a bit). By the way no one should start searching deadnotes after reading this topic, no good will come from such test smile.gif

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- Phil66   G String Issue   May 3 2016, 08:30 PM
- - Todd Simpson   You can try lots of things from adjusting the trus...   May 4 2016, 12:36 AM
- - Chris S.   I'm with Todd - could be a fret that needs fil...   May 4 2016, 02:30 AM
- - Mertay   Every guitar (noticable or not) has sustain issues...   May 4 2016, 06:39 AM
- - Phil66   Thanks folks, It's only that string at that...   May 4 2016, 08:45 AM
- - Phil66   It's going to the luthier on Friday   May 4 2016, 09:14 PM
- - Mertay   while you're at it, inspect other guitars too ...   May 4 2016, 09:22 PM
- - Phil66   I'll do them one at a time thanks mate My ...   May 4 2016, 09:31 PM
- - Phil66   Took it to the guitar tech today, there are a coup...   May 6 2016, 08:05 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   IMHO, the best thing you could have done QUOTE (...   May 7 2016, 10:26 PM
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- - Mertay   Cool!   May 6 2016, 08:54 PM
- - Phil66   Eeeeek, guitar tech has had a look at guitar today...   May 10 2016, 08:33 PM
|- - Mertay   QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 10 2016, 07:33 PM) Ee...   May 10 2016, 08:39 PM
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- - Phil66   Funny how it's the B. He said he is going to l...   May 10 2016, 08:54 PM
|- - Mertay   QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 10 2016, 07:54 PM) Fu...   May 10 2016, 09:23 PM
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- - Phil66   Fetched my guitar back today, it has drove the lut...   May 20 2016, 09:08 PM
- - Mertay   I guess it would be asking too much to go to the l...   May 20 2016, 09:20 PM
- - Phil66   We spoke about that this evening. He is positive i...   May 20 2016, 09:29 PM
|- - Mertay   QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 20 2016, 08:29 PM) We...   May 20 2016, 09:41 PM
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- - Phil66   He's a top bloke, owns a little guitar shop an...   May 20 2016, 10:06 PM
- - Phil66   Ok, I've had an answer from the PRS Technical ...   May 23 2016, 08:10 PM
- - klasaine   Wow, I would love to take a look at that guitar. I...   May 23 2016, 09:50 PM
|- - Mertay   QUOTE (klasaine @ May 23 2016, 08:50 PM) ...   May 23 2016, 10:29 PM
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- - Phil66   Yeah it's crazy Ken, the one that blew me away...   May 23 2016, 10:20 PM
- - Todd Simpson   I can't believe the PRS guy said what he said....   May 26 2016, 03:29 AM
- - Phil66   Yeah but he did say that a certain notes shouldn...   May 26 2016, 08:35 AM
- - klasaine   Did you buy the guitar new?   May 26 2016, 02:30 PM
- - Phil66   Yeah, late last year. Never noticed this issue tho...   May 26 2016, 05:43 PM
- - klasaine   Weird. Like Todd, I don't buy the PRS explanat...   May 26 2016, 06:09 PM
- - Phil66   Here's the file I sent him, B 16th fret G stri...   May 26 2016, 08:03 PM
|- - Mertay   QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 26 2016, 07:03 PM) He...   May 26 2016, 08:26 PM
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- - Phil66   Yeah the ringing on the first note sounds like the...   May 26 2016, 10:38 PM
|- - Mertay   QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 26 2016, 09:38 PM) My...   May 26 2016, 11:20 PM
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- - Todd Simpson   It may need to be partially refretted or entirely ...   May 27 2016, 03:56 AM
- - fzalfa   Any buyed guitar (specialy brand new ones) need to...   May 27 2016, 03:42 PM
- - Phil66   Hello folks, OK I couldn't get Gtune to work,...   May 27 2016, 09:04 PM
|- - Mertay   QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 27 2016, 08:04 PM) He...   May 27 2016, 09:25 PM
|- - Phil66   QUOTE (Mertay @ May 27 2016, 09:25 PM) Wi...   May 27 2016, 09:39 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   So did you take it in to your luthier to see if he...   May 28 2016, 03:18 AM
|- - Phil66   Yeah Todd, the luthier had it for two weeks, he di...   May 28 2016, 08:15 AM
|- - Todd Simpson   Sounds like it's one for the RETURN REQUEST ...   May 28 2016, 08:47 PM
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- - AK Rich   I think it's time to demand a replacement and ...   May 28 2016, 05:29 PM
- - Phil66   Thanks Rich, They are getting back to me on Tuesda...   May 28 2016, 06:27 PM
- - Phil66   I'll see what they say. I don't actually k...   May 28 2016, 10:07 PM
- - AK Rich   Best of luck to you Phil. I am pulling for you...   May 29 2016, 06:38 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   A year is a while to keep one before asking for a ...   May 30 2016, 12:58 AM
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- - Phil66   I had it in September, I haven't played it muc...   May 30 2016, 09:29 AM
- - bleez   I dont know if its different with guitars but a ne...   May 30 2016, 03:08 PM
- - klasaine   I'm fascinated with this. So I went back and l...   May 30 2016, 04:00 PM
- - Phil66   We can rule out pickups because it's the same ...   May 30 2016, 05:57 PM
|- - Mertay   QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 30 2016, 04:57 PM) Th...   May 30 2016, 07:25 PM
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- - Phil66   Yeah I know but I want it to work how it should in...   May 30 2016, 08:02 PM
- - klasaine   I don't think it has anything to do with wheth...   May 30 2016, 08:14 PM
|- - Phil66   QUOTE (klasaine @ May 30 2016, 08:14 PM) ...   May 30 2016, 08:55 PM
||- - bleez   QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 30 2016, 08:55 PM) I...   May 30 2016, 11:07 PM
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|- - Mertay   QUOTE (klasaine @ May 30 2016, 07:14 PM) ...   May 30 2016, 10:07 PM
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- - Phil66   We could try a mini G clamp if all else fails   May 30 2016, 10:37 PM
|- - Mertay   QUOTE (Phil66 @ May 30 2016, 09:37 PM) We...   May 30 2016, 10:57 PM
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- - klasaine   That shit's all 'snake oil'. Those sus...   May 30 2016, 11:00 PM
- - Phil66   Hmmmmm, not good, you need to know that I also tol...   May 31 2016, 07:21 PM
- - Mertay   So as soon as the retailer sells the guitar, all r...   May 31 2016, 08:17 PM
- - bleez   guitar guitar have a 12 month manufacturer warrant...   May 31 2016, 10:12 PM
- - Phil66   Thank you very much Scott buddy, I'll quote t...   May 31 2016, 10:16 PM
- - Phil66   OK, I emailed the dealer, no answer yet. In the m...   Jun 1 2016, 08:16 PM
|- - Rammikin   QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 1 2016, 07:16 PM) OK,...   Jun 1 2016, 11:30 PM
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- - Mertay   Thanks for sharing, a long read but will read it l...   Jun 1 2016, 08:32 PM
- - klasaine   Complete fucking bullshit, is all I have to say ab...   Jun 1 2016, 09:17 PM
- - Phil66   I have to agree with you Ken but these David and G...   Jun 1 2016, 09:25 PM
- - AK Rich   You have got to be kidding me. If your guitar is n...   Jun 1 2016, 09:32 PM
- - Phil66   I can't see them changing it Ken, the law and ...   Jun 1 2016, 10:05 PM
- - bleez   why did the PRS guy bother checking and re-tuning ...   Jun 1 2016, 10:30 PM
- - Phil66   I agree Scott, and I respect everyone's opinio...   Jun 1 2016, 10:35 PM
- - Mertay   Here's a video I found on the tube (jump to 2....   Jun 2 2016, 12:34 AM
|- - Phil66   QUOTE (Mertay @ Jun 2 2016, 12:34 AM) Her...   Jun 2 2016, 11:41 AM
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- - klasaine   My response wasn't so much about the PRS repla...   Jun 2 2016, 02:05 AM
|- - Rammikin   QUOTE (klasaine @ Jun 2 2016, 01:05 AM) I...   Jun 2 2016, 07:14 AM
|- - Phil66   QUOTE (klasaine @ Jun 2 2016, 02:05 AM) *...   Jun 2 2016, 08:34 AM
|- - Rammikin   QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 2 2016, 07:34 AM) Wou...   Jun 2 2016, 02:08 PM
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- - vpavlov   Phil, I have exactly the same issue with my Ibane...   Jun 2 2016, 04:00 PM
|- - Mertay   QUOTE (vpavlov @ Jun 2 2016, 03:00 PM) .....   Jun 2 2016, 04:20 PM
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- - Phil66   Thanks Mertay, It's a glued in neck. Cheers   Jun 3 2016, 07:16 AM
- - Phil66   OK, here is my email to PRS Europe and their lates...   Jun 3 2016, 08:56 PM
|- - Mertay   QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 3 2016, 07:56 PM) I t...   Jun 3 2016, 09:39 PM
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- - Phil66   I played it tonight and it didn't seem as bad....   Jun 3 2016, 11:10 PM
- - Phil66   The retailer has contacted me and are arranging a ...   Jun 6 2016, 08:51 PM
|- - Mertay   QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 6 2016, 07:51 PM) The...   Jun 6 2016, 09:59 PM
|- - bleez   QUOTE (Mertay @ Jun 6 2016, 09:59 PM) Wha...   Jun 6 2016, 10:17 PM
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- - Phil66   GuitarGuitar have five shops, this is going back t...   Jun 6 2016, 10:21 PM
- - klasaine   Applause!   Jun 7 2016, 02:18 AM
- - Todd Simpson   Indeed Great to hear it's going back. At that...   Jun 7 2016, 06:44 AM
- - Phil66   Guitar has been picked up. Just been speaking via ...   Jun 7 2016, 05:49 PM
- - PosterBoy   Here's a thread on deadspots from TGP which in...   Jun 8 2016, 05:25 AM
- - Phil66   Thanks mate, Is Husky John Suhr? Cheers   Jun 8 2016, 08:13 PM
- - Phil66   Update: Retailer is now sending it back to PRS Eur...   Jun 14 2016, 03:50 PM
- - Phil66   Still waiting for the Tech Manager at PRS Europe t...   Jun 24 2016, 09:34 PM
|- - Mertay   QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 24 2016, 08:34 PM) St...   Jun 24 2016, 09:46 PM
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- - Phil66   If you get chance again, go straight for the G str...   Jun 25 2016, 09:19 PM
- - Mertay   QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 25 2016, 08:19 PM) He...   Jun 25 2016, 09:39 PM
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