24th Fret Sustain
Phil66
Apr 6 2019, 10:38 PM
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Hello folks,

How do people like Mr Vai get sustain and vibrato on the 24th fret, I'm trying for the latest Metallica collab but the notes just die very quickly.

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Phil

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Phil66
Apr 7 2019, 10:09 AM
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Thanks Todd,

I know practise laugh.gif but sometimes you need tech tips. It's like throwing darts, one can just buy a set and a board and practise for years not improving, a few tips on stance, hold and follow through from a master and immediately their average score doubles tongue.gif

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Apr 8 2019, 04:54 AM
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Just for you Phil, here is a bit of Midnight Video to show some tips/tricks. Notice the waggy vibrato and how it creates it's own sustain. If I don't use wide/waggy vibrato the notes will die off much quicker. It's a very yngwie style vibrato. Also a pinch of gain and delay never hurts smile.gif I hope this helps!!


Using my hotone AMPERO on this one. Also shot in near total darkness on my little 4k action cam connected via usb recording directly to hard drive. Sure kills any web cam I've ever tried. Never seen low light performance like this on a logitech.

I just couldn't help myself smile.gif I totally get what you are saying. Unless you want to use an Ebow or something, the big trick is really to use the left hand for intensifying your vibrato. This will create it's own sustain if that makes any sense. I'll try to record you an example.
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Apr 7 2019, 05:09 AM) *
Thanks Todd,

I know practise laugh.gif but sometimes you need tech tips. It's like throwing darts, one can just buy a set and a board and practise for years not improving, a few tips on stance, hold and follow through from a master and immediately their average score doubles tongue.gif

Cheers

Phil

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- Phil66   24th Fret Sustain   Apr 6 2019, 10:38 PM
- - Todd Simpson   Practice!!!! You walked right in ...   Apr 7 2019, 02:26 AM
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- - Mertay   If you're comfortable with pinch harmonics, tr...   Apr 7 2019, 12:06 PM
- - Phil66   Thanks Mertay, I'm trying to hit a note on th...   Apr 7 2019, 03:57 PM
- - Sinclair   http://www.fernandesguitars.com/sustainer/...-sust...   Apr 7 2019, 07:26 PM
- - Phil66   Thanks Todd, Thinking about it, I don't think...   Apr 8 2019, 07:54 AM
|- - Todd Simpson   If you place in between the frets, and use wide vi...   Apr 9 2019, 02:08 AM
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- - AK Rich   Good calluses on the fingertips help fretting down...   Apr 8 2019, 06:50 PM
- - Phil66   Yeah I guess so, thank Rich   Apr 8 2019, 07:17 PM
- - Todd Simpson   Phil mentioned also that it's easy to put too ...   Apr 10 2019, 02:21 AM
- - jstcrsn   have you tried getting the note to ring without pi...   Apr 10 2019, 10:47 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   I was suggesting adding some vibrato to keep the s...   Apr 11 2019, 06:04 AM
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- - Sensible Jones   Don't press on the string too hard Phil, your ...   Apr 11 2019, 01:21 PM
- - Adam M   In my case it's probably a matter of practice ...   Apr 11 2019, 04:35 PM
- - Phil66   Thanks for all the tips folks. I'll try to pos...   Apr 11 2019, 05:39 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   I'm sure we can give better feedback with even...   Apr 12 2019, 10:23 AM
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- - Phil66   https://youtu.be/zOw4sJcA1Mo   Apr 13 2019, 09:20 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   Ahh. At about 24 seconds in, it sounds to me like ...   Apr 14 2019, 03:10 AM
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- - jstcrsn   sorry if this has been asked , what kind of pick u...   Apr 14 2019, 04:40 AM
- - Phil66   Cheers Todd, It has had a good set up and frets ...   Apr 14 2019, 09:33 AM
- - Phil66   A better video, I still think it's technique o...   Apr 14 2019, 08:11 PM
|- - Todd Simpson   The one finger technique is not your best bet that...   Apr 15 2019, 06:46 AM
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- - Phil66   Thanks Todd, I was deliberately not doing any vib...   Apr 15 2019, 07:25 AM
|- - Todd Simpson   Just to make sure it's not an issue with that ...   Apr 16 2019, 07:16 AM
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- - Phil66   Will do when I get home buddy, but the notes one t...   Apr 16 2019, 07:24 AM
- - Todd Simpson   You are probably getting better at it each time yo...   Apr 17 2019, 02:39 AM
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