90% Of New Guitarists Quit In First Year |
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90% Of New Guitarists Quit In First Year |
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Oct 5 2015, 11:28 PM | ||
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Oct 6 2015, 12:10 AM |
Their premise is flawed.
One is not a 'guitarist' in the first year. They're just someone who's bought a guitar. Most people quit music after a year unless they're forced by their parents to continue (which isn't necessarily a bad thing IMO). It's always been that way ... always. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Oct 6 2015, 04:30 PM |
You knew you'd had me going here You used the word force, and unless it's about making someone eat their vitally important medicine I hate that word. And I certainly don't think it is a good method, for kids fall in love with an instrument. I believe in inspiring and perhaps even make them beg a little, as in Todd's case. I think that creates incentive to study something thoroughly. When I said force I (obviously, come on) wasn't talking about people/kids who 'want' to play or that I necessarily think it's a good idea. I was speaking in regard to the OP premise of quitting after the first year. The only folks who don't quit after the first year are those that want to do it or those that are forced. *When and where I grew up most kids had music lessons for at least a year regardless of whether they wanted too or not. It was part of your education. And you know, there's a part of me that doesn't think that's such a terrible thing - as long as the parent understands that in all likelyhood, junior is not going to be another Heifetz. Don't lock them in the room to practice and don't hit their hands when they make a mistake. A little arts education never hurt anybody. My .02 This post has been edited by klasaine: Oct 6 2015, 06:48 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Oct 6 2015, 06:51 PM |
Conversely, many adults I know tell me that they wish their parents had made them practice more and/or continue with lessons because they'd "sure like to play (or be better than they are) now".
It ain't all candies and rainbows. Know your kids, know your students. This post has been edited by klasaine: Oct 6 2015, 06:53 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Oct 6 2015, 07:54 PM |
Interesting topic. How many Violinists or Flautists quit in the first year? would it be 90% also, or less (I would think less) Perhaps the guitar is going to have more people giving up after the first year simply for the reason that it's so popular? There's no Flute Hero for the Playstation, should there be? and what would the interface be like? could it double as the interface for Bagpipe Hero also? Yes, there is. It's called 'school band'. And it is one reason that a lot of not-guitarists (winds, brass, strings, percussion students) do continue. They've got an interactive and yet also human/social outlet for their burgeoning avocation. Way more fun than any type of 'simulator'. When I did teach guitar and bass, the students who usually continued for years, were the ones that played in bands. It's more fun, it's more motivating, you see actual results and it's also social. Masturbating gets boring. This post has been edited by klasaine: Oct 6 2015, 07:58 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Oct 6 2015, 10:52 PM |
But I would probably still rather let it happen naturally, When your kid's in school if they don't want to learn how to read or do math do you or are you comfortable with the 'just let it happen naturally' aesthetic. It might (?) but are you gonna take that bet? Like I said - know your kid, know your student. There are many encouraging ways to instill the need to practice and stick with something. This post has been edited by klasaine: Oct 6 2015, 11:02 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/foolin-the-clouds https://soundcloud.com/klasaine2/surfin-at-the-country-hop Soundcloud assorted ... https://soundcloud.com/klasaine3 New record ... http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/kenlasaine Solo Guitar ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...5iIdO2tpgtj25Ke Stuff I'm on ... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXZh...b-dhb-4B0KgRY-d |
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Oct 7 2015, 09:01 PM |
I think this quitting in the first year applies to nearly EVERYTHING. We are usually inspired to play an instrument, carve a sculpture, make a clay pot on a spinning wheel etc etc by a master of their craft. Masters of their craft make it look so so so easy and we all think "Hey, I could do that", then you try and it's like "How the f*** do they do that????". We don't see the hours and hours of effort that they have put in and some people, especially impatient people like many children, move on to something else that looks just as easy and go through the same process.
Human nature I guess, I want it all, I want it now. -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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