Dreamy Ballad Odd Time Collaboration, UPLOADS AND COMMENTS |
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Nov 16 2009, 11:16 PM |
I got the track matched up on the measures in the DAW at 5/5, but I've always been a little ignorant of rhythm outside of "just playing on time" To get past the oddness of the beat, Daniel has provided us with that nice count in measure(s). If you select JUST that section (2 bars in my DAW, but perhaps 1 bar of 5/8?) and loop JUST that section you can jam for a while on that, without the backing, until you get used to phrasing along with the accents within the drums there. That could help, although the rhythm of the drums has a different grouping that the count-in measures, That's kind of my bad, but it reinforces the exercise on odd time signatures, so it's good! the grouping in the count-in is: 1 - 2 - 3 - 1 - 2 While the drums to me are: 1 - 2 - 1 - 2 - 3 Except at the end: 1 - 2 - 3 - 1 - 2 At 5/4 I get a two bar pre-count like Jaf. It may well be then a 10/8 time signature if it was a one bar pre-count. Some help please Daniel. It would help me to sync up the delay times via MIDI on the G-Major better. At the moment, I am probably synced at a half-time feel which for this piece may not be such a bad thing ... I don't know. I am confused. It still seems to match anyways and maybe that is all that matters? it is all that matters, all that theory behind odd time signature should help you understand better not confuse you, Whole notes at 148 bpm should be equal. The only "odd" divisions occur at fractions of the measure. So, at 148bpm, whole note of delay comes to 1622ms. The division beyond that should be simple enough. yeah, well put, if you set your delay at 1622ms then you'd get a bounce at the tempo of the hi hat, still to me that is an eighth note, -------------------- Visit my:
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Nov 17 2009, 01:25 PM |
Any advices to sound less pentatonical ? Use the minor scale to start, a good interval in this case would be E - C -------------------- Visit my:
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Nov 17 2009, 03:44 PM |
Hi Daniel,
Here's my take with backing and without. I tried to stay in that dreamy sorta haunty mood. I hope it works. Cheers! NoSkill_DanielDreamy_WithBT.mp3 ( 1.57MB ) Number of downloads: 204 NoSkill_DanielDreamy_NoBT.mp3 ( 1.57MB ) Number of downloads: 175 -------------------- Still looking for my soul mate, guitar. |
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Nov 17 2009, 04:31 PM |
Hi Daniel, Here's my take with backing and without. I tried to stay in that dreamy sorta haunty mood. I hope it works. Cheers! NoSkill_DanielDreamy_WithBT.mp3 ( 1.57MB ) Number of downloads: 204 NoSkill_DanielDreamy_NoBT.mp3 ( 1.57MB ) Number of downloads: 175 I see that you had a musical idea in your head before recording, that's a good thing, did you sing it? I think the haunty mood comes from using that low register and staying in the same area of the guitar. Try moving around more. good job! -------------------- Visit my:
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Nov 18 2009, 02:24 PM |
This is quite the occasion for me. My first GMC Collaboration Upload ever!! I have said it before but I will say it again: I just love this backing track. It has really grown on me. Thank you Daniel.
Here is my take. DreamyBallad_NeurO_with_BT.mp3 ( 1.24MB ) Number of downloads: 224 DreamyBallad_NeurO_Solo.mp3 ( 1.24MB ) Number of downloads: 163 Looking forward to hearing everyone's take and the final mix. -------------------- My gear? Mesa Boogie Triaxis - TC Electronic G-Major - Marshall 9200 Dual MonoBloc (2x100W) - Fender Roc Pro 4x12 (300W) + a whole lot more!
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Nov 18 2009, 02:34 PM |
This is quite the occasion for me. My first GMC Collaboration Upload ever!! I have said it before but I will say it again: I just love this backing track. It has really grown on me. Thank you Daniel. Here is my take. DreamyBallad_NeurO_with_BT.mp3 ( 1.24MB ) Number of downloads: 224 DreamyBallad_NeurO_Solo.mp3 ( 1.24MB ) Number of downloads: 163 Looking forward to hearing everyone's take and the final mix. wow, nice effect at the end! that little melodic phrase on the delay really made sense to me, The tone is good, not too bright, very full, I think your picking is still a little noisy, focus on that, -------------------- Visit my:
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Nov 18 2009, 04:26 PM |
That is just the way the picks I use are ... They bite the strings hard and give a pronounced pick noise. I switched over to using various V-Picks a few months ago and for this I used the Freakishly Large for a fatter tone. Most times I use a lot thinner pick ... the Screamer. I tend to not be light in my picking either which is kinda necessary with the heavier gauge 11-49 strings. So not really sure how I can tone it down? Any ideas? Glad you like it and thanks for the advice. Appreciate it. I'm a fan of picking the strings hard, it has something to do with the pick and strings but really it's in your hand, tilt the pick just to see where it makes the least noise, -------------------- Visit my:
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Nov 21 2009, 04:47 PM |
Great takes so far... I like the range of sounds. I want to try to earn the points...but I'll have to submit another take for that, this is pretty straight forward. Here is mine .
This post has been edited by Hammerhead: Nov 21 2009, 05:11 PM
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dreamy8_ballad_consolidated_consolidated.mp3 ( 720.79K )
Number of downloads: 204
dreamy8_NBCballad_consolidated_consolidated.mp3 ( 720.79K ) Number of downloads: 159 -------------------- When I look down at my hands... I see "FINGERS of DOOM"
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Nov 21 2009, 10:46 PM |
Great takes so far... I like the range of sounds. I want to try to earn the points...but I'll have to submit another take for that, this is pretty straight forward. Here is mine . good job Hammerhead, I would encourage you to risk more, doing some vibrato, sliding, I tend to not be light in my picking either which is kinda necessary with the heavier gauge 11-49 strings. So not really sure how I can tone it down? Any ideas? If you feel like you have to adjust your picking depending on the strings, that's going to make it difficult for you to feel completely comfortable and use the best of your abilities. I recommend that you use the picks that make you feel the most comfortable so that you don't have to think about it, it becomes a part of your fingers almost. Great takes so far... I like the range of sounds. I want to try to earn the points...but I'll have to submit another take for that, this is pretty straight forward. Here is mine . I just imported your solo in my DAW. Make sure you follow the collaborations guidelines to consolidate the solos. The starting point must be an exact bar line so that it's in perfect sync with the backing track when importing it. In this case the exact bar line would be the first hihat hit. -------------------- Visit my:
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Nov 22 2009, 04:11 PM |
Frustrated? For sure. I know how that feels. The best thing you can do is analyse your picking by the smallest possible bits at a time. By that I mean, take a look at when the hand falls, when it hits the string, then when it passes the string, the when it raises again, you know what I mean? you won't do this for hours but at least you'll do it sometimes to note what's causing some unwanted noise, and of course be open to change at any time if it requires to hit the strings hard so that you "shake" your old habits do it, or whatever it takes, -------------------- Visit my:
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Nov 22 2009, 05:15 PM |
Daniel,
Here is another take and I went for a whole new sound to mix it up. I can also record my last take properly with the Ballad track lined up on the proper beat if you like (not a problem to do). I took more chances here and it felt good. I think I might mix it up one more take and shoot for a completely new sound again. It felt like I had to stretch to rethink my relationship to the music. At first I wasn't sure I could do it... then Bam! I could hear the new music, (in my head) with the same backing track.
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DreamyBallad_2.mp3 ( 708.57K )
Number of downloads: 149
DreamyBallad_2NBT.mp3 ( 708.57K ) Number of downloads: 126 -------------------- When I look down at my hands... I see "FINGERS of DOOM"
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Nov 22 2009, 08:12 PM |
Let's see if you can figure out where this one took me..
Edit: Remixed... This post has been edited by skennington: Nov 22 2009, 11:33 PM
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Dreamy_Skenny_NB.mp3 ( 1.45MB )
Number of downloads: 134
Dreamy_Skenny_WB.mp3 ( 1.45MB ) Number of downloads: 191 |
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