The 100 Greatest Guitarists Of All Time, The most idiotic list I've ever seen
Nighthawk1
Apr 27 2008, 01:21 PM
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Hi there GMC,
maybe some of you know that the famous rollingstone magazine likes to create a ranking list of the best guitarist of all time. Well, It really drives me mad because alone the idea of ranking guitarist is just absolutely senseless. So let alone that some guitarist are rated top (where you think What is Kurt doing up here) and some low (What is Eddie doing down there?) some great guitarists are not even listed! So what is the criterion for that list ??Do you also think that it is just absolute nonsense to create such a list ?
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Mark.
Apr 27 2008, 04:08 PM
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I guess this list is made by someone who doesn't play guitar, most people who don't play guitar think a guitarist is a good guitarist when he writes nice songs, not when he is techniqual skilled. Also if you don't play guitar names as Steve Vai, John Petrucci, Michael Angelo Batio say nothing to you, so why would you put them in a list then.

This list is pure crap, it's just like you let a guitarist make the top 100 trompet players dry.gif

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Apr 27 2008, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE (Mark. @ Apr 27 2008, 10:08 AM) *
I guess this list is made by someone who doesn't play guitar, most people who don't play guitar think a guitarist is a good guitarist when he writes nice songs, not when he is techniqual skilled. Also if you don't play guitar names as Steve Vai, John Petrucci, Michael Angelo Batio say nothing to you, so why would you put them in a list then.

This list is pure crap, it's just like you let a guitarist make the top 100 trompet players dry.gif


You mean, Johnny Ramone at #16, and those guys left off, you have a problem with that?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yQ9kOamgaU0&feature=related

Well, the Ramones never made me yawn like all those guys, and they did invent punk. There are videos from the early 70's that demonstrate that it was the Ramones that invented punk, no question about it, evidence is clearly there.

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QUOTE (fkalich @ Apr 27 2008, 09:12 PM) *
You mean, Johnny Ramone at #16, and those guys left off, you have a problem with that?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yQ9kOamgaU0&feature=related

Well, the Ramones never made me yawn like all those guys, and they did invent punk. There are videos from the early 70's that demonstrate that it was the Ramones that invented punk, no question about it, evidence is clearly there.


If you want the list based on that criteria, well Joe Satch and Steve Vai pretty much made the genre of Melodic Shred, and John Petrucci helped create Progressive Metal. And yawn? http://youtube.com/watch?v=t25AOSxZZkI

And even if the list was based on most creative as far as making genres go, punk is more than just the guitar, which is pretty much just simple barchord/powerchord rhythms, but this is the best GUITARIST list, not songwriter, whatever.

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QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Apr 27 2008, 03:18 PM) *
If you want the list based on that criteria, well Joe Satch and Steve Vai pretty much made the genre of Melodic Shred, and John Petrucci helped create Progressive Metal. And yawn? http://youtube.com/watch?v=t25AOSxZZkI

And even if the list was based on most creative as far as making genres go, punk is more than just the guitar, which is pretty much just simple barchord/powerchord rhythms, but this is the best GUITARIST list, not songwriter, whatever.


they are not judging it by gmc worshiped guitar god standards. those guys are so unknown to the general public. there is a reason for it. they are boring to most people. they even bore me, and I play guitar as much as anybody around here, and shred in my fashion. but most people just find them boring. it takes more than just being a virtuoso to be interesting. i will take an interesting 3 chord guy over a pretentious guitar god any time.

van halen being at 70 was because most people identify that band to closely with DLR. Same with Slash and Axel. But it was a list of guitarists the readers like. And probably pretty accurate by that criteria.

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QUOTE (fkalich @ Apr 27 2008, 09:39 PM) *
they are not judging it by gmc worshiped guitar god standards. those guys are so unknown to the general public. there is a reason for it. they are boring to most people. they even bore me, and I play guitar as much as anybody around here, and shred in my fashion. but most people just find them boring. it takes more than just being a virtuoso to be interesting. i will take an interesting 3 chord guy over a pretentious guitar god any time.

van halen being at 70 was because most people identify that band to closely with DLR. Same with Slash and Axel. But it was a list of guitarists the readers like. And probably pretty accurate by that criteria.


Dream Theater has sold 10 million albums, so someone must know about them. And most of these shredders are actually pretty well known in places like Japan, where Malmsteen, for example has a huge fan base. And I believe that 4 of his albums were in the top 100 for sales for like 10 years, so no, they aren't soooo unknown to the general public as it might appear, if the U.S. was the entire world, it might be that way.

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- Nighthawk   The 100 Greatest Guitarists Of All Time   Apr 27 2008, 01:21 PM
- - Marcus Lavendell   Absolute nonsense imo....   Apr 27 2008, 01:30 PM
|- - Nighthawk   QUOTE (Marcus Lavendell @ Apr 27 2008, 02...   Apr 27 2008, 01:32 PM
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- - Canis   You're right. That looks more like a "100...   Apr 27 2008, 01:35 PM
|- - Nighthawk   QUOTE (Canis @ Apr 27 2008, 02:35 PM) You...   Apr 27 2008, 01:41 PM
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- - Sam Hook   Where's Steve Vai and Joe Satriani?   Apr 27 2008, 02:03 PM
|- - Nighthawk   QUOTE (Sam Hook @ Apr 27 2008, 03:03 PM) ...   Apr 27 2008, 02:18 PM
|- - Lian Gerbino   QUOTE (Nighthawk @ Apr 27 2008, 10:18 AM)...   Apr 27 2008, 07:51 PM
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- - Nemanja Filipovic   The only explenation that I see is that people vot...   Apr 27 2008, 02:19 PM
- - Nighthawk   Yes, but even if this list was created by votings....   Apr 27 2008, 02:21 PM
- - Canis   It's impossible to have a "correct" ...   Apr 27 2008, 02:40 PM
- - Nighthawk   Indeed, and that's the reason why you shouldn...   Apr 27 2008, 02:43 PM
- - Danilo Capezzuto   Bleahh Shame on this list.   Apr 27 2008, 02:47 PM
- - The Uncreator   No disrespect to Hendrix, But im so sick and tired...   Apr 27 2008, 03:08 PM
- - OrganisedConfusion   Having Iommi in a top 100 guitarist list is laugha...   Apr 27 2008, 03:11 PM
- - Canis   Maybe they made the list saying: "These guys ...   Apr 27 2008, 03:16 PM
- - Slammer   LOL Man, I don't remember how many Discussion...   Apr 27 2008, 03:17 PM
- - shellshock1911   The list is utter crap. Jimi Hendrix shouldn...   Apr 27 2008, 03:53 PM
|- - shellshock1911   QUOTE (Mark. @ Apr 27 2008, 04:08 PM) I g...   Apr 27 2008, 04:12 PM
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- - Gus   No one can name greatest guitarists, because every...   Apr 27 2008, 04:56 PM
- - Trond Vold   That was a silly list.. There's no Vai, Satri...   Apr 27 2008, 06:03 PM
- - Smikey2006   yea this list is jokes.. made me laugh and cry a l...   Apr 27 2008, 06:23 PM
|- - Gus   QUOTE (Smikey2006 @ Apr 27 2008, 07:23 PM...   Apr 27 2008, 07:20 PM
|- - shellshock1911   QUOTE (Gus @ Apr 27 2008, 07:20 PM) I agr...   Apr 27 2008, 08:53 PM
|- - Nighthawk   QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Apr 27 2008, 09:5...   Apr 27 2008, 08:59 PM
|- - JVM   QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Apr 27 2008, 03:5...   Apr 27 2008, 09:25 PM
|- - Gus   QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Apr 27 2008, 09:5...   Apr 27 2008, 11:43 PM
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- - Pablo Vazquez   I have a best idea "The 100 most stupid magaz...   Apr 27 2008, 06:42 PM
|- - Canis   QUOTE (Pablo Vazquez @ Apr 27 2008, 07:42...   Apr 27 2008, 07:21 PM
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- - Fsgdjv   Complaining on a f***ing list is about as stupid a...   Apr 27 2008, 07:47 PM
|- - Nighthawk   QUOTE (Fsgdjv @ Apr 27 2008, 08:47 PM) Co...   Apr 27 2008, 07:56 PM
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- - g-forcelover   Hey, check out who they put as #70! QUOT...   Apr 27 2008, 07:58 PM
|- - Nighthawk   QUOTE (g-forcelover @ Apr 27 2008, 08...   Apr 27 2008, 08:03 PM
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- - Ivan Milenkovic   These lists are absolutely ridiculous   Apr 27 2008, 08:57 PM
- - Col Roberts   What inspired this list? Alvin Lee not in the top...   Apr 28 2008, 09:08 AM
|- - blindwillie   QUOTE (Col Roberts @ Apr 28 2008, 10:08 A...   May 1 2008, 05:02 PM
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- - Mark.   Jeez I hate all this crap about rating a guitarist...   Apr 28 2008, 09:29 AM
|- - Fsgdjv   QUOTE (Mark. @ Apr 28 2008, 10:29 AM) Do ...   May 1 2008, 01:59 PM
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- - Nighthawk   The reason why I came up with that stupid list was...   Apr 28 2008, 10:38 AM
- - Juan M. Valero   12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana 16 Johnny Ramone of th...   Apr 28 2008, 03:20 PM
|- - Pablo Vazquez   QUOTE (Juan M. Valero @ Apr 28 2008, 11:2...   Apr 29 2008, 08:44 PM
|- - blindwillie   QUOTE (Juan M. Valero @ Apr 28 2008, 04:2...   May 6 2008, 02:15 PM
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- - Marcus Siepen   rofl... Kurt Cobain on 12 and David Gilmour on six...   Apr 29 2008, 08:45 PM
- - Pi38   Am I the only one who noticed that Paul Gilbert IS...   Apr 29 2008, 08:57 PM
- - g-forcelover   Did anyone notice that Muris isn't on there?   Apr 29 2008, 09:13 PM
|- - Canis   QUOTE (g-forcelover @ Apr 29 2008, 10...   May 1 2008, 01:54 PM
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- - OrganisedConfusion   I think Kurt Cobain deserves to be in there but no...   May 1 2008, 02:01 PM
- - Jeff   So all of the first 69 people here are better than...   May 1 2008, 02:11 PM
- - bsamn   hehe.......stupid list......cool posts   May 1 2008, 02:37 PM
- - mattacuk   No Paul Gilbert, no Yngwie? No bucket? Im sure ...   May 1 2008, 03:17 PM
- - Torben   What is it, that make people want to rank all sort...   May 6 2008, 10:51 PM
- - Daniel Robinson   Lol Kurt Kobain and Johnny Ramone If they are go...   May 6 2008, 11:39 PM
|- - Vic_Black   All those TOP100's and other TOP's are the...   May 7 2008, 02:22 PM
|- - blindwillie   QUOTE (Daniel Robinson @ May 7 2008, 12:3...   May 8 2008, 08:55 AM
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- - maw793   EVH at 70th?   May 17 2008, 01:05 AM
- - FrankW   A complete waste of time. The criteria is dubious ...   Jun 3 2008, 05:54 PM
- - Nick Kellie   i've said it before and i'll say it again ...   Jun 3 2008, 06:00 PM
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