The 100 Greatest Guitarists Of All Time, The most idiotic list I've ever seen Options

[Nighthawk1]

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/593...sts_of_all_time

Hi there GMC,
maybe some of you know that the famous rollingstone magazine likes to create a ranking list of the best guitarist of all time. Well, It really drives me mad because alone the idea of ranking guitarist is just absolutely senseless. So let alone that some guitarist are rated top (where you think What is Kurt doing up here) and some low (What is Eddie doing down there?) some great guitarists are not even listed! So what is the criterion for that list ??Do you also think that it is just absolute nonsense to create such a list ?
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This post has been edited by Nighthawk: Apr 27 2008, 07:39 PM

[Smikey2006]

yea this list is jokes.. made me laugh and cry a little.. imo.. hendrix is way over rated.. same with slash i think.. this whole " put feeling in your playing" thing is over rated.. not to say these guys weren't good.. but if no one has realised it.. "feeling" is the choice to add bends and vibrato and to play notes that are very melodic.. anyone can play with feeling, others choose to shred.. its a choice, not a reason to say.. slash is better than buckethead because slash had "feeling". If this list was to suggest the top 100 guitarists of all time then grounds have to be layed..

Song writing ability
Technicality
Precision
Ingenuity
originality.

i have no problem with giving a guitarist like hendrix and slash a good rating because they were both good and original.. but to say best guitarist you cannot forget to give credit to people who are technically incredible such as rusty, vai, satch, eric johnson, Malmasteen, Petrucci, Batio....

overall.. the list is rediculous.. BB king owns most of these ppls anyways

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[Gus]

" put feeling in your playing" thing is over rated.. not to say these guys weren't good.. but if no one has realised it.. "feeling" is the choice to add bends and vibrato and to play notes that are very melodic.. anyone can play with feeling, others choose to shred..

I agree about your general observations, but pretty much disagree about the feeling stuff.
Not everyone can play with feeling. Also not every one can shred, and other people do shred with feeling. And those who can play with feeling do it in very different ways.(after all feeling comes from inside )
David Gilmour or Slash are amongst my favorites, while shredders with no feeling look impressive to me, but I really don't listen to then that often.

The only problem is that rating feeling is totally subjective.

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This post has been edited by Gus: Apr 27 2008, 07:22 PM

[shellshock1911]

I agree about your general observations, but pretty much disagree about the feeling stuff.
Not everyone can play with feeling. Also not every one can shred, and other people do shred with feeling. And those who can play with feeling do it in very different ways.(after all feeling comes from inside )
David Gilmour or Slash are amongst my favorites, while shredders with no feeling look impressive to me, but I really don't listen to then that often.

The only problem is that rating feeling is totally subjective.

What is emotion? What is feeling? There is no definition. Yes, everyone can, and does play with feeling, if I feel emotionally connected to my music, who can tell me that I am not? Feeling is 100% in the listener, so there is no way to measure it. There is no such thing as shredders with no feeling. Once again, define feeling. And if shredders were not passionate about guitar, why would they spend thousands of hours perfecting their technique when guitarists with "emotion" and "feeling" have spent little to none?

Shred creates a different type of feeling in me than blues, jazz or whatever. Blues and jazz is more of laid back to sad, soulful feeling, while shred creates a high-energy feeling. No song in the world makes me more happy than a Dragonforce song, happiness is an emotion. That is the thing, emotion in music is far more complex and diverse than people who claim there is "no feeling" in a select few players make it out to be.

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This post has been edited by shellshock1911: Apr 27 2008, 08:56 PM

[Gus]

Feeling is 100% in the listener, so there is no way to measure it. There is no such thing as shredders with no feeling.

Well, you are in fact right. The words "no", "never" and "ever" are always too strong. So, "no feeling" is over-exaggeration.

I just wanted to point out that playing as fast as possible is not the objective of everyone with a guitar. In fact I am right now spending more time on the bend+vibrato than on notes per minute. Actually, I find bend+vibrato a tricky technique to master... All over the fretboard, in different guitars, with fixed or floating bridge... In each of them is a little different. And bending removes the limits of the well tempered instrument... So many possibilities...

I see no problem in going fast, in fact I think it is really good to go all the way to it.
I just love songs like Fade to Black, One, November Rain and Estranged where it starts very slowly and builds up all the way to a climax.

By the way, I do like Dragon force...

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