New Boss Pedals Options

[Mertay]

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[Adam]

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I REALLY like their slogan. Simply sophisticated. You don't see many this clever nowadays.

Seems like one of each would be enough for a complete pedalboard, but then isn't Kemper a better substitution since I presume these are all digital? Boss probably went towards the mainstream trends but I feel they are running out of ideas (you can't design new pedals because there isn't an infinite amount of possibilities. I see that after this announcement and the Waza reissues they launched recently. They could start developing tube-powered stompboxes though.

Personally, I only find the EQ interesting but I'll try out GE-7 before moving on to larger stuff. I hear there are a few nice rack eq units, so there's a lot to choose from.

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[Gabriel Leopardi]

I REALLY like their slogan. Simply sophisticated. You don't see many this clever nowadays.

Seems like one of each would be enough for a complete pedalboard, but then isn't Kemper a better substitution since I presume these are all digital? Boss probably went towards the mainstream trends but I feel they are running out of ideas (you can't design new pedals because there isn't an infinite amount of possibilities. I see that after this announcement and the Waza reissues they launched recently. They could start developing tube-powered stompboxes though.

Personally, I only find the EQ interesting but I'll try out GE-7 before moving on to larger stuff. I hear there are a few nice rack eq units, so there's a lot to choose from.

mm I think that Kemper must be a better option since you have everything in one, but the price is very different. If someones asks me to invest the same amount of money on these type of digital pedals or go for a Kemper (or Fractal), I would definitely go for the second option.
Even more, now that Fractal is releasing a new smaller version.

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[Todd Simpson]

Id have to agree. HOnestly, at this price range, I"d just get the Hotone Ampero which runs about $400 and uses the algos from the Xtomp which I also liked quite a bit. The problem with the Xtomp is that it can't change patches quickly it's just one thing at a time. each emulated pedal/amp was good, but changes were to slow to use it on stage as anything but one pedal. People were buying 2 or thre of them which seems crazy. I'd buy a kemper before I bought 3 xtomps. But the ampero is about the price of two of these pedals and does everything one could need while sounding quite good at the same time.

I think these are for Pedal Board Buffs who are just hard core about using Pedals. I've seen some of these guys around and they just HATE the idea of a multi fx unit. They swear by using individual pedals to shape their tone. It just seems archaic to me. One would need a programmable pedal switcher to use a wad of pedals and even then each pedal only has one setting, which is what aggrivated me about the xtomp. So that's no good either.


Still, I would like to try these out just for giggles

mm I think that Kemper must be a better option since you have everything in one, but the price is very different. If someones asks me to invest the same amount of money on these type of digital pedals or go for a Kemper (or Fractal), I would definitely go for the second option.
Even more, now that Fractal is releasing a new smaller version.

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[Adam]

Id have to agree. HOnestly, at this price range, I"d just get the Hotone Ampero which runs about $400 and uses the algos from the Xtomp which I also liked quite a bit. The problem with the Xtomp is that it can't change patches quickly it's just one thing at a time. each emulated pedal/amp was good, but changes were to slow to use it on stage as anything but one pedal. People were buying 2 or thre of them which seems crazy. I'd buy a kemper before I bought 3 xtomps. But the ampero is about the price of two of these pedals and does everything one could need while sounding quite good at the same time.

I think these are for Pedal Board Buffs who are just hard core about using Pedals. I've seen some of these guys around and they just HATE the idea of a multi fx unit. They swear by using individual pedals to shape their tone. It just seems archaic to me. One would need a programmable pedal switcher to use a wad of pedals and even then each pedal only has one setting, which is what aggrivated me about the xtomp. So that's no good either.


Still, I would like to try these out just for giggles

That's me! I hate cars with ABS or assisted steering just as much as I dislike modelling units. It takes away most of the fun for me. The easiest solution to needing a pedal control unit is imho a/b switch. Distortion signal in one path and clean in the other. If you plan to be consistent with your tone and don't need to switch between more than 2-3 presets it should be good enough. I know being analogue semi-purist is in some ways inefficient but as much as I love tinkering, I may eventually put together some unit to fix these issues.

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[Todd Simpson]

Then you are the target market I''m an ancillary market as I might get a unit just to try it out and see how it sounds. The flexibility of a single unit won me over a while ago yet I still had two pedal boards for years. Only recently did I sell them off after the ampero as I found I never used them anymore. They just took too much time to adjust and then creating patches was very limiting. Not being able to have as many settings on a given pedal as I wanted also killed it. I still like playing wtih pedals thought Probably always will.

That's me! I hate cars with ABS or assisted steering just as much as I dislike modelling units. It takes away most of the fun for me. The easiest solution to needing a pedal control unit is imho a/b switch. Distortion signal in one path and clean in the other. If you plan to be consistent with your tone and don't need to switch between more than 2-3 presets it should be good enough. I know being analogue semi-purist is in some ways inefficient but as much as I love tinkering, I may eventually put together some unit to fix these issues.

The first thing I do with any pedal/unit, is do the on off test with no fx to see if it's messing with the tone. The 11 rack didn't seem to have any impact and the ampero has no impact. However, I hear some of the early amperos had noise in them which was later fixed. I've got the 11 and the ampero and they are both great units. I find myself using the ampero because it's so small and easy to tweak with the touch screen or the software editor. I'll never sell the 11 though. It's just a very handy piece of kit and them amps tones are great . LIke i said though I hope to try these pedals out : ) Love trying new gear. Not to marry, just to date it briefly. Kinda like my video games

Well, the point of that is so the tone of guitar won't be changed. My experience is every processor I tried (low to mid. priced stuff) changes the signal balance somehow, you can test that with the hotone too just bypass everything record then plug guitar direct to soundcard and record. These processors usually have hidden post-eq to compensate that difference.

Reverb pedals are usually better than processors cause a good reverb takes too much dsp. Delays can be argued but my experience the output is usually more lively eq'wise. These are also (hardware) parallel designed which to my knowledge can't be done with processors.

Boss jumps in here by being buffered, as a buffer also influences sound character. Some totally avoids while others select 1-2 (usually their famous tuner) on their chain so the signal won't get too dark by cable length or too many (even if true-bypass) pedals. The 500 series by the way are true-bypass or buffered selectable, not sure about the 200 series.

I have to agree Having all of it in one spot is just way more easy to build tones with IMHO. If you have good sounding bits in the unit, that sound as good or better than the pedals/amps, then the pedals/amps are just dead weight. That said, I still like playing with new gear, even if I have no intention of keeping it. Some folks just like making pedals boards. I still find it to be fun Like legos for music. But I never end up using them as they are way to limiting. One sound per pedal? Why? When I can have 100 sounds out of that pedal without having to adjust it manually cause it's in the multi unit. But to each his own

mm I think that Kemper must be a better option since you have everything in one, but the price is very different. If someones asks me to invest the same amount of money on these type of digital pedals or go for a Kemper (or Fractal), I would definitely go for the second option.
Even more, now that Fractal is releasing a new smaller version.

Here is a demo video from Boss. Some great tones!! Nothing that a good multi can't do IMHO, but it's fun to build a board and play with buttons so I say build boards!!! But they are $250 each so all four is $1,000. I'd return them all and get a good multi unit for that price. You could almost buy two good units, an ampero and a mini helix or mini headrush and have way more possibilites.

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This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Jun 18 2019, 03:53 AM