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Feb 21 2021, 11:04 PM
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Hi friends! I need help for my brother (Cirse’s & Ramen’s bassist).
He needs a new sound interface and he basically wants something like this one: Motu m4 https://motu.com/en-us/products/m-series/m4/ Do you know any other good options like these one that are good quality, USB, and include Loopback? -------------------- My lessons
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Feb 21 2021, 11:23 PM
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I don't know what "Loopback" is but in my own experience you can't go wrong with Focusrite
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Feb 21 2021, 11:35 PM
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Focusrite
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Feb 21 2021, 11:41 PM
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He told me that he experienced latency issues with Focusrite Scarlet. That's why he was looking for other options.
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Feb 22 2021, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Feb 21 2021, 10:41 PM)  He told me that he experienced latency issues with Focusrite Scarlet. That's why he was looking for other options. There is no latency with Focusrite is you used the direct recording monitor. -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 22 2021, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Feb 21 2021, 08:00 PM) There is no latency with Focusrite is you used the direct recording monitor. He told me that he had these issues when working on big projects with many channels. -------------------- My lessons
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Feb 22 2021, 12:42 AM
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I googled and found this; https://www.sustainpunch.com/low-latency-audio-interfaces/
Though not the same motu soundcard, we could guess the usb hardware and driver are same. Compared to a focusrite its only 1ms less latency. To get a lower latency than such budget soundcard, one has to go UAD, RME etc. which are around 4x the price. So while I'm sure the motu is also a decent soundcard (bigger models popular here for outside recording) it won't be worth it to jump from focusrite. I don't know the specific problem but he could try a different asio driver like asio4all or some DAW's has their own asio drivers. Also if he uses plug-ins in those projects, even if they're zero latency still cause of the cpu demand lowest buffer may not start to work. If he isn't in a rush, should investigate if a plug-in he uses is problematic or maybe a windows setting change may increase performance. |
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Feb 22 2021, 03:01 PM
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Great info! Thanks a lot friends! He doesn't have a GMC account to answer here but I'll share this thread with him.
I think that everything is clearer now. -------------------- My lessons
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Feb 23 2021, 06:27 AM
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If you find out that it is the computer and not the Focusrite, the 3rd Gen Scarlett, above the 2i2 have the loopback feature.
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 25 2021, 09:11 PM
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I'd never heard of the loopback feature, I did some research and I think I can find many uses for it and maybe streamline some of the boxes and cables that I have.
I've just ordered a 3rd Gen Scarlett 18i8 which has the feature, looking forward to trying it out. It will be here on Monday. I won't let it be a distraction Gab, honest 
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 25 2021, 09:23 PM
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Happy ending... he finally got a Motu M4.
 
-------------------- My lessons
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Feb 25 2021, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Feb 25 2021, 08:23 PM) Happy ending... he finally got a Motu M4. Brilliant, let us know how he gets on with it please. I'm interested to see if it solves the latency issue. I love my Focusrites and it will take a lot to pull me away from them now, but I'd still like to know for future reference  Cheers Phi -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 25 2021, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Feb 25 2021, 08:23 PM) ... Cool, let us know if it helped the problem and how it compares to focusrite. |
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Feb 25 2021, 09:45 PM
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Yeah! Then I'll tell you. He knows that this is not the supeb option but it's a step forward in quality comparing to the focusrite (2i2 2nd gen) that he had.
I'll be back with more details. -------------------- My lessons
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Feb 27 2021, 08:42 PM
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Well my 18i8 3rd Gen was due on Monday, I ordered on Thursday night so Monday seemed good, those good people at Andertons got it to me today though
, free delivery and it got here by 9:30 this morning.I have to say "thank you" to Gab for bringing the loopback function to my attention, I had never heard of it but after some research I thought it would be something I could use and means I can get rid of one of little boxes on my desk. I used to have to use a USB soundcard from the second headphone socket on my 2nd Gen 18i8 but I can now use that to use TH-U into my Fender or Peavey amp Cheers Gab, you gave me a good excuse to get some new gear I've been loving the halos on my 3rd Gen solo ever since I got it for my holiday home, now I have them on my main unit Anyone in the UK wanna buy an18i8? It will be going on the bay tomorrow
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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