Reply to this topicStart new topic
> "singing" Tube Tone?
Kaine
post Apr 14 2010, 05:42 PM
Post #1


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 2
Joined: 8-March 10
Member No.: 9.795



Hey Guys,

I've had a question for quite a long time and I hope it is okay that I've opened a new topic. I play for like 4 years and I'm kind of unhappy with the overdriven lead-sound of my gear.
I really would like to create that overdriven "singing" sound you hear very often in distorted riffs. At the moment I'm playing a litte Satriani and I miss the high peaks of my distortion. Is there a special way to hit the string if you want to get it? I think it would be a great way to pronounce some notes better but I won't get the tone on purpose. Even when I go max-volume with my amp with an extra distortion pedal I only get bad noises at the end. I hope you know what sound I'm looking for. If not I could add some links of lessens where you hear it.

My gear:
Speaker: 4x12 Stramp Cabinet (not sure of the Watts)
Amp: Peavey Classic 30 Head
Guitar: Gibson Les Paul Standard 2008
Used Effects: Line 6 - M13

Best greetings from Germany!

Eike


--------------------
_______________________________
Working hard or hardly working?!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
ZakkWylde
post Apr 14 2010, 05:54 PM
Post #2


Learning Tone Master
Group Icon

Group: MVC
Posts: 3.185
Joined: 22-June 07
From: Germany
Member No.: 2.164



I am not sure what you mean. Are you missing something from your gears general sound or are you talking about harmonics?

*Bist du mit dem Klang deines Equipments unzufrieden oder willst du nur wissen wie man Obertöne und Pinch Harmonics spielt?*


--------------------


Gear:
- Jackson USA Select KV2 King V with EMG 81/85
- Gibson Les Paul Custom Arctic White with EMG 81/85
- Ibanez Rg 8527 J Custom 7-String with DiMarzio Evolution and Air Norton

- Peavey 6505+ head with Marshall 1960AV 4x12 cab
- Peavey Vypyr 30 Practice Amp
- Dunlop Crybaby From Hell, Maxon OD808, Boss TU-2, MXR CarbonCopy, ISP Decimator, MXR Custom Audio Electronics Booster

Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Fran
post Apr 14 2010, 08:09 PM
Post #3


Learning Rock Star - Wiki Coordinator
Group Icon

Group: GMC Senior
Posts: 7.972
Joined: 20-November 07
From: Spain
Member No.: 3.338



Are you referring to artificial harmonics maybe? A high pitch squealing sound? Chck these two lessons, let us know if that's what you mean:

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...inch-harmonics/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/solo-from-spindles/


--------------------
Guitars:
Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster, Ibanez RG2570MZ, Epiphone SG G-400
Amp:
Vox AC4TVH head + V112TV cab
Effects:
Vox Satchurator, Vox Time Machine, Dunlop CryBaby, Boss MT-2, Boss CE-5, Boss TU-2, Boss ME-70
Recording:
Line-6 POD X3 + FBV-Express, Pandora PX5D

GMC wants YOU to take part in our Guitar-Wikipedia!
Have a good time reading great articles and writing your own with us in our GUITAR WIKI!
Share your playing and get Pro-advice from our Instructors: Join REC
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Bogdan Radovic
post Apr 14 2010, 08:32 PM
Post #4


Bass & Beginner Instructor
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 15.612
Joined: 30-November 07
From: Belgrade, Serbia
Member No.: 3.410



I'm not sure what you mean. If you refer to harmonics Fran gave you nice suggestions. If you miss the top end and brightness in your riffing, try adding a little treble and experimenting with pickup selector positions on guitar.


--------------------
For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net
Check out my lessons and my instructor board.
Check out my beginner guitar lessons course! ; Take a bass course now!
My solo and band songs : Keep Going On, Night Vibe, Kad Te Vidim, Susret, Plava Silueta
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
MickeM
post Apr 14 2010, 10:24 PM
Post #5


Born of NWOBHM, Moderation Team Leader
*

Group: Members
Posts: 8.562
Joined: 9-January 07
From: Stockholm, Sweden
Member No.: 1.062



QUOTE (Kaine @ Apr 14 2010, 06:42 PM) *
Amp: Peavey Classic 30 Head

Preamp on 10 for most rock distortion on that amp.
And if I get you right.
Then hit a string with your pick and right after touch it with your thumb. Pick, thump, in the pick motion. Takes some practice to master.

That Peavey only go that far into rock territory. It's a great sounding amp though, teriffic cleans imho. You could always add a distortion pedal to the cleans for more metal-sound.


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Todd Simpson
post Apr 14 2010, 11:00 PM
Post #6


GMC:er
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 15.160
Joined: 23-December 09
From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Member No.: 8.794



You've got some nice gear smile.gif If you want to get a bit more distortion to have more cutting tone during leads and hit pinch harmonics a bit easier, you might add some gain/distortion. You can buy a distortion pedal like the ibanez Tube Screamer which is a classic. Or try active pickups, like EMG's, or use a rack mount pre-amp, or a different head. Go to your local music shop and try some pedals and heads and such to see if you can find the tone you are looking for. If you have a PC, you can try some amp modeling software like AMPLITUDE and try out emulations of various amps and fx to see what you might like.

Practice!
Todd


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Santiago Diaz Ga...
post Apr 15 2010, 07:14 AM
Post #7


GMC:er
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 1.769
Joined: 28-April 09
From: Buenos Aires, Argentina
Member No.: 7.117



If you can tell us what you mean with "singing", we'll be able to help you


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Damir Puh
post Apr 15 2010, 01:45 PM
Post #8


Instructor
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 144
Joined: 12-January 10
From: Tetovo/Skopje - Macedonia
Member No.: 9.129



I think you are referring to the lack of harmonics in your tone... If that's the case: adding more gain isn't the solution, it will just make your tone more compressed and nothing more - try to add more upper midrange frequencies (presence), back off the gain and add an overdrive pedal with the tone knob cranked. In addition, you can angle the pick a bit more, so it hits the string at an angle (almost with the edge), it should help.

I hope I helped you in some way. smile.gif


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Kaine
post Apr 15 2010, 07:35 PM
Post #9


GMC:er
*

Group: Members
Posts: 2
Joined: 8-March 10
Member No.: 9.795



What a feedback, thank you guys I really could get the answers I've been looking for.
Actually "Pinch Harmonics" was the exact thing I was looking for. The lessons Fran posted really should help me getting further.

Thanks also for the tips on tone ranges and setup.Due to my work I only can play my tube amp and the M13 at the weekends so I'm not that into high distortion... yet. tongue.gif

Thanks and "auf Wiedersehen"

What a feedback, thank you guys I really could get the answers I've been looking for.
Actually "Pinch Harmonics" was the exact thing I was looking for. The lessons Fran posted really should help me getting further.

Thanks also for the tips on tone ranges and setup.Due to my work I only can play my tube amp and the M13 at the weekends so I'm not that into high distortion... yet. tongue.gif

Thanks and "auf Wiedersehen"


--------------------
_______________________________
Working hard or hardly working?!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Ivan Milenkovic
post Apr 18 2010, 03:18 AM
Post #10


Instructor
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 25.396
Joined: 20-November 07
From: Belgrade, Serbia
Member No.: 3.341



Glad you got the problem solved and answered! smile.gif In addition to that, you can get better pinched harmonics if you put more gain and use bridge pickup. Try to use some type of linear volume boost to make additional distortion on your amp, instead of using overdrive pedals. This will make the tone better.


--------------------
- Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
- Check out my GMC Profile and Lessons
- (Please subscribe to my) YouTube Official Channel
- Let's be connected through ! Facebook! :)
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 


RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 22nd October 2017 - 01:05 PM