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Cosmin Lupu
post May 4 2011, 01:53 PM
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He guys!

I'm really excited about the fact that my newest lesson is up today

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Rearranging-A-Cover/

- so I thought I'd break the ice with a bunch of questions, which should help us discover interesting ways of approaching the processes used when covering a song.

- Do you learn the original note by note and then try to perform as close as the original goes?

- Do you personalize it by adding your favorite chord positions/ intervals/ effects to the original chord progression?

- How much time do you dedicate to recording and actual production of your little "transformer song" smile.gif

I'm very curious to see how you guys like to work in this particular area , so don't be shy, throw everything you got at me! biggrin.gif

And of course if there are any questions you'd like to ask regarding this field - I am all yours smile.gif


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post May 4 2011, 01:56 PM
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I am terribly bad at covers - probably because I have never really played in a cover band.

When I used to transcribe I did it note for note - and I thought I played it correctly. When listetning back to it after som time had passed I realised it was all wrong... However I don't necessarily think that was a bad thing - I just did it my way I guess.


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post May 4 2011, 02:30 PM
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i do personalize some times for example if you check my band the solos won't be the same on every guig q:


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post May 4 2011, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE (MonkeyDAthos @ May 4 2011, 01:30 PM) *
i do personalize some times for example if you check my band the solos won't be the same on every guig q:


Hmmmm, I usually respect my compositions - i am used to play in bands that use a lot of rhythmic formulas and unison phrases so if you someone doesn't play the same thing, the whole song goes wrong.

I usually like to keep a strong line between composition and improvisation, of course, depending on the project I'm working with tongue.gif


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post May 4 2011, 06:34 PM
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Great topic and brilliant lesson again, Cosmin ! smile.gif

If I'm learning a cover to play in the band then I learn it 100% as accurate as possible, including the solos.. however in some cases I may alter phrases or choose different notes if I don't think the original suits my style. For example, we play Creeping Death by Metallica.. there's a part in the solo which I don't follow because I think it sounds a bit naive so I choose different notes. Of course, I always play everything like me.. so I always use my vibrato etc, rather than try to emulate another guitarist 100%

However, if I were to cover a song from a different genre then I would approach it differently and possible alter the arrangement smile.gif


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post May 4 2011, 09:36 PM
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Agreed, awesome cover! As far as learning covers, I definitely don't learn them note by note. I really enjoy adding a little of my own flavor to them (the minimal amounts I can for now).

As far as listening to covers, it depends on the song if I prefer it to sound extremely alike or only partially.


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- Do you learn the original note by note and then try to perform as close as the original goes?
Mostly.

- Do you personalize it by adding your favorite chord positions/ intervals/ effects to the original chord progression?
Somewhat. I can't help but put something in the song that's my style.

- How much time do you dedicate to recording and actual production of your little "transformer song"
Not very often. I don't have all the equipment yet, and I'm not that good doing it by myself.


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post May 4 2011, 10:17 PM
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QUOTE (thefireball @ May 4 2011, 09:08 PM) *
- Do you learn the original note by note and then try to perform as close as the original goes?
Mostly.

- Do you personalize it by adding your favorite chord positions/ intervals/ effects to the original chord progression?
Somewhat. I can't help but put something in the song that's my style.

- How much time do you dedicate to recording and actual production of your little "transformer song"
Not very often. I don't have all the equipment yet, and I'm not that good doing it by myself.


All you need is a recording software, a guitar pre-amp or an amp emulating software, a soundboard, your guitar and your imagination smile.gif nothing fancy, I'd gladly help you out with advices on orchestrations and all that. Just get what you need and let's rock! biggrin.gif


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post May 4 2011, 10:28 PM
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Cool topic! I had to record a cover for a tribute with my band Cirse. The artist is Luis Alberto Spinetta and they said that the song that we should record was "Alma de Diamante". Spinetta is a very talented and legendary musician here but I'm not very into his music so I didn't know the song. When I first listened to it I said.. this will be difficult!! hahah

I was listening a lot to A Perfect Circle at that time. They have many song in 6/8 and 3/4. "Alma de diamante" is in 4/4. I had the idea of changing the meter of the song to 6/8 and give it a feel similar to A Perfect Circle..

Check out both versions! smile.gif

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Cirse's Version:




and the questions for this one..

Do you learn the original note by note and then try to perform as close as the original goes?

no, I didn't

- Do you personalize it by adding your favorite chord positions/ intervals/ effects to the original chord progression?

definitely!

- How much time do you dedicate to recording and actual production of your little "transformer song" smile.gif

Many time! I developed the idea in a week I think. Not too much work but I have been thinking on how to re-arrange it in a cool way.

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post May 4 2011, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ May 4 2011, 06:01 PM) *
Hmmmm, I usually respect my compositions - i am used to play in bands that use a lot of rhythmic formulas and unison phrases so if you someone doesn't play the same thing, the whole song goes wrong.

I usually like to keep a strong line between composition and improvisation, of course, depending on the project I'm working with tongue.gif



yah i do that to, i meant was that in a song or too that allowd you "put your own touch" i just go with the flow.


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Hey Gabriel! I like what you've done biggrin.gif

The arrangement is very interesting and the fact that you listen to APC can only bring good stuff to anything you do. I love almost everything in which Mr. Maynard is involved smile.gif pure genius that guy!



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post May 5 2011, 12:42 AM
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Very cool interpretation, well done! When playing covers, in a band, I would try to play it in a way the audience would recognize unless the band was doing "our version" of a tune, say a remake of an old tune to make it heavy. Then we would add loads of crunch. smile.gif I heard IN FLAMES do a DEPECH MODE cover which I thought was great. I never imagined a depeche song being that heavy.



QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ May 4 2011, 04:28 PM) *
Cool topic! I had to record a cover for a tribute with my band Cirse. The artist is Luis Alberto Spinetta and they said that the song that we should record was "Alma de Diamante". Spinetta is a very talented and legendary musician here but I'm not very into his music so I didn't know the song. When I first listened to it I said.. this will be difficult!! hahah

I was listening a lot to A Perfect Circle at that time. They have many song in 6/8 and 3/4. "Alma de diamante" is in 4/4. I had the idea of changing the meter of the song to 6/8 and give it a feel similar to A Perfect Circle..

Check out both versions! smile.gif

Original:




Cirse's Version:




and the questions for this one..

Do you learn the original note by note and then try to perform as close as the original goes?

no, I didn't

- Do you personalize it by adding your favorite chord positions/ intervals/ effects to the original chord progression?

definitely!

- How much time do you dedicate to recording and actual production of your little "transformer song" smile.gif

Many time! I developed the idea in a week I think. Not too much work but I have been thinking on how to re-arrange it in a cool way.



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post May 5 2011, 06:47 AM
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QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ May 4 2011, 06:53 PM) *
Hey Gabriel! I like what you've done biggrin.gif

The arrangement is very interesting and the fact that you listen to APC can only bring good stuff to anything you do. I love almost everything in which Mr. Maynard is involved smile.gif pure genius that guy!



Thank you Cosmin!! yeah I'm a big fan of Maynard and Josh Freese! smile.gif I met Josh some months ago and he said me that APC was planing to reunite and record a new album the next year. It would be so great if this happens! He felt so surprised when I showed him my APC tattoo! hahaha.


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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ May 5 2011, 05:47 AM) *
Thank you Cosmin!! yeah I'm a big fan of Maynard and Josh Freese! smile.gif I met Josh some months ago and he said me that APC was planing to reunite and record a new album the next year. It would be so great if this happens! He felt so surprised when I showed him my APC tattoo! hahaha.


WOW biggrin.gif well, I hope I'll be able to share a glass of Maynard's wine with the man himself one glorious day biggrin.gif


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