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Aug 14 2019, 05:42 PM |
Major Pentatonic over I. You already know it.
Your question is: Why does the Penta variation work pver IV? Isn't it? -------------------- My lessons
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Aug 14 2019, 08:31 PM |
Major Pentatonic over I. You already know it. Your question is: Why does the Penta variation work pver IV? Isn't it? Thanks Gab, I know I already know it but I was strictly in student mode and following instructions but just checking to clarify That isn't my question but, I'm guessing the answer to that particular question is because the normal penta scale (A,C,D,E,G,A) doesn't have the F# in it which is from the major scale, but the 7 chord does. Just a guess after looking at the diagrams and looking at the scale generator. My question was related to arpeggios but after looking for an answer to the question that you thought I was going to ask, I've realised the answer to the question I was going to ask, it was lack of fretboard knowledge which I still don't have but I sussed it out I'll now spend the next few days practising those elements, (If you get a few minutes please check HERE for errors. Then I'll record over the original backing which is in that page. After that, BEFORE learning any more shapes etc, I think it would be good to stick with them but use a different backing track like THIS and then, maybe move onto a different backing with a I IV V progression in a different key, not necessarily pure blues but slow blues-rock or something, and we can try different keys and tempos in I IV V to really get this current set into my fingers so that they never ever leave. Like the A, D and E open chords I learnt years and years ago, I've never forgotten them because I play them every day forever. If you suggest anything different I'm fine with it but please, Slowly slowly catchy monkey. This current set of examples is more than enough for me, I'm getting old dude Cheers buddy. Onwards and upwards. You friend Phil This post has been edited by Phil66: Aug 15 2019, 12:46 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Aug 15 2019, 02:57 PM |
Hi Phil, I totally agree with the plan. No more shapes by now, it's time to make music with the current stuff. (The things that you've showed in video and the 2 new shapes that I've shared in my previous post).
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Aug 15 2019, 03:04 PM |
FOR now
Okay, great. I'll be back when I have something for you, not going to rush it, I'm going to let it flow. Cheers buddy Phil -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Aug 15 2019, 04:54 PM |
FOR now Okay, great. I'll be back when I have something for you, not going to rush it, I'm going to let it flow. Cheers buddy Phil hahahah it seems that It's impossible to fix me. -------------------- My lessons
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Aug 15 2019, 08:17 PM |
hahahah it seems that It's impossible to fix me. Everything is fixable, just change your mindset and start saying, "I WILL say 'For now' and stop saying 'By now'" Remember PMA Positive Mental Attitude Was my answer correct in my last post HERE? Did you like the musical link? Cheers Phil UPDATE: Only had a short session tonight, had to work late working on that Malware infection that destroyed our server and all connected computers BUT, I really enjoyed it I didn't feel bogged down and my head wasn't spinning. I think that at the moment THIS is my limit for my brain to cope with so we'll go along with the plan, if my brain starts coping better all that will happen is I will progress quicker with a lighter workload Cheers buddy, Peace. This post has been edited by Phil66: Aug 15 2019, 09:17 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Aug 16 2019, 02:19 PM |
Thanks for the update mate. It sounds good to me!
Was my answer correct in my last post HERE? Did you like the musical link? The changed note in that Pentatonic Variation is part of the IV chord (the third). This scale is usually called "minor add 6th Pentatonic". This is a lesson based on it, just as reference: LINK. About the musical link, do you refer to this? LINK -------------------- My lessons
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Aug 16 2019, 02:35 PM |
Thanks for the update mate. It sounds good to me! The changed note in that Pentatonic Variation is part of the IV chord (the third). This scale is usually called "minor add 6th Pentatonic". This is a lesson based on it, just as reference: LINK. About the musical link, do you refer to this? LINK That was basically my answer Thanks for the information Gab, I'll check it out. The link I meant was when I said "Many times I thought of just quitting but I carried on regardless. (musical link is underlined ) " It's pop music but if you listen to their material the lyrics are all about real life and full of humour. Cheers buddy. Speak soon This post has been edited by Phil66: Aug 16 2019, 04:29 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Aug 16 2019, 03:30 PM |
It sounds good, like!
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Aug 16 2019, 09:00 PM |
Glad you like it Gab
Here's some more. I'd be interested in your thoughts though, both composition and lyrics. I love the musical intro to "Perfect 10" https://youtu.be/3Xo80hR-QfQ Think of you with pipe and slippers Think of her in bed Laying there just watching telly Think of me instead I'll never grow so old and flabby That could never be Don't marry her, have me And your love light shines like cardboard But your work shoes are glistening She's a Ph. D in "I told you so" You've a knighthood in "I'm not listening" She'll grab your Sandra Bullocks And slowly raise her knee Don't marry her, have me And the Sunday sun shines down on San Francisco bay And you realise you can't make it anyway You have to wash the car Take the kiddies to the park Don't marry her, have me Those lovely Sunday mornings With breakfast brought in bed Those blackbirds look like knitting needles Trying to peck your head Those birds will peck your soul out And throw away the key Don't marry her, have me And the kitchen's always tidy And the bathroom's always clean She's a diploma in 'just hiding things' You've a First in low esteem When your socks smell of angels But your life smells of Brie Don't marry her, have me And the Sunday sun shines down on San Francisco bay And you realise you can't make it anyway You have to wash the car Take the kiddies to the park Don't marry her, have me And the Sunday sun shines down on San Francisco bay And you realise you can't make it anyway You have to wash the car Take the kiddies to the park Don't marry her, have me https://www.letssingit.com/the-beautiful-so...version-kjsr7cd LetsSingIt - The Internet Lyrics Database And the more explicit version https://youtu.be/GYZfFKDsXHk Think of you with pipe and slippers Think of her in bed Laying there just watching telly Then think of me instead I'll never grow so old and flabby That could never be Don't marry her, fuck me And your love light shines like cardboard But your work shoes are glistening She's a PhD in "I told you so" You've a knighthood in "I'm not listening" She'll grab your sweaty bollocks Then slowly raise her knee Don't marry her, fuck me When the Sunday sun shines down on San Francisco Bay And you know that you can't make it anyway You have wash the car Take the kiddies to the park Don't marry her, fuck me Those lovely Sunday mornings With breakfast brought in bed Those blackbirds look like knitting needles Trying to peck your head Those birds will peck your soul out And throw away the key Don't marry her, fuck me And the kitchen's always tidy And the bathroom's always clean She's a diploma in "just hiding things" You've a first in "low esteem" When your socks smell of angels But your life smells of Brie Don't marry her, fuck me And the Sunday sun shines down on San Francisco bay And you realize you can't make it anyway You have to wash the car Take the kiddies to the park Don't marry her, fuck me And the Sunday sun shines down on San Francisco bay And you realize you can't make it anyway You have to wash the car Take the kiddies to the park Don't marry her, fuck me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Another one with great lyrics. In many ways, it's a beautiful song about acceptance The verses of the song - sung alternately by Paul Heaton and Jacqui Abbott - are made up of a series of innuendos using clothing sizes and penis length to illustrate a loving relationship between two people who don't conform to modern stereotypes of physical perfection. The male vocal shows that although his partner is a little on the large side ("but she wears a 12"), she is a 'perfect 10' in his eyes. He also states, "the anorexic chicks, the model 6, they don't hold no weight with me," preferring instead to, "hold something I can see." Likewise, the female vocal references penis size in several places, suggesting that "XXL" is unnecessary ("Every penny don't fit the slot") and that even when all her partner has to offer is "a poor poor 4, there ain't no man can replace." The numbers in the song that are sung by Abbot refer to penis length, "Big fat 8" is 8 inches long, "poor poor 4" is 4 inches long. The chorus to the song is sung by both male and female vocals, and confirms the theme of a happy and accepting relationship beyond ideas of conventional beauty, with Heaton and Abbott stating: "We love our love, in different sizes I love her body, especially the lies Time takes its toll, but not on the eyes Promise me this, take me tonight." I love the singers' faces in the second verse, cheeky https://youtu.be/js-2cqqY1K8 She's a perfect 10, but she wears a 12 Baby keep a little 2 for me She could be sweet 16, bustin' out at the seams It's still love in the first degree When he's at my gate, with a big fat 8 You want to see the smile on my face And even at my door, with a poor poor 4 There ain't no man can replace 'Cause we love our love, in different sizes I love her body, especially the lies Time takes it's toll, but not on the eyes Promise me this, take me tonight If he's extra large well I'm in charge I can work this thing on top If he's XXL well what the hell Every penny don't fit the slot The anorexic chicks, the model 6 They don't hold no weight with me Well 8 or 9, well that's just fine But I like to hold something I can see 'Cause we love our love, in different sizes I love her body, especially the lies Time takes its toll, but not on the eyes Promise me this, take me tonight I've bought a watch, to time your beauty But I've had to fit a second hand I've bought a calendar, and every month Is taken up by lover man 'Cause we love our love, in different sizes I love her body, especially the lies Time takes its toll, but not on the eyes Promise me this, take me tonight 'Cause we love our love, in different sizes I love her body, especially the lies Time takes its toll, but not on the eyes Promise me this, take me tonight Cheers buddy. 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Aug 19 2019, 09:07 PM |
Hello Gab,
I hope you enjoyed the music and lyrics above I know I said I wouldn't ask questions, and I don't mind if you say "Wait, all will be revealed soon" I can take that, so I will ask and see what you say. Why use this E Dominant arpeggio over the V chord.............. ........when this has the same notes and is less awkward? The only reason I thought about it is that I was practising the V chord and the arpeggio whilst looking at the fretboard diagrams, I started thinking, "Hmmm I wonder why arpeggios are different positions to playing the notes of the chord where you actually strum them. I know the G# on the D string is not strummed there but it is very local. Cheers buddy. -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Aug 19 2019, 10:57 PM |
Hi mate! Thanks for the music! I could get into it yet, but I'll do it soon. Thanks a lot friend!
There are at least 5 shapes for each arpeggio. I've decided to share that new E dominant shape (C Shape in CAGED system) to have all the notes to play the blues in the same part of the neck. There are many shapes and concepts to learn but we will focus on the ones that I've already shared FOR now. Does it make sense? -------------------- My lessons
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Aug 20 2019, 12:34 PM |
Felicidades mi amigo,
It's great that you used "for now", even if you initially typed "by now", you had the awareness to change it, if you typed it correctly first time that's brilliant. You now have to be as aware outside the classroom as you will easily switch back to "by now" subconsciously when your tutor isn't around. I will be watching you young man Regarding the arpeggio, I understand what you are saying and I will go with what you say, I won't go looking at the CAGED system, I know what it is but I'll keep away for now. I just think that the arpeggio that I wrote seems more intuitive for the V chord and my brain loves intuition It just seems to fit better with where the root is played. As I said, I'm not going to wonder off into unchartered territory, I'll wait to be fed the info Cheers buddy. Phil This post has been edited by Phil66: Aug 20 2019, 02:28 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Aug 20 2019, 02:18 PM |
Great Keep me updated!
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Aug 20 2019, 08:32 PM |
Hello Gab,
Tonight for the first time, I've tried to improvise with the new shapes. I've been strumming the chords and playing the shapes after each chord in free time and I thought I'd got them in my head, what a difference the backing track makes, my fingers reverted to the normal pentatonic minor shape over the IV chord and my head completely forgot the E dominant arpeggio. Back to the drawing board, for now, I need much more time playing over the backing, it's not natural enough to me yet. Time is still tight at the moment, I'm still working late ironing out the creases after our malware attack at work, one server and fourteen computers all reformatting or new drives, and updating to Win10, sorting out compatible software for data transfer to machines etc, it's a right headache. Cheers buddy. This post has been edited by Phil66: Aug 20 2019, 08:49 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Aug 21 2019, 02:39 PM |
Hi mate, thanks for you update! It will take some time to make all these shapes familiar, but you are on the right track.
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Aug 21 2019, 08:58 PM |
Thanks Gab,
Just to show you I do know the shapes, it's just that they aren't instinctive yet so when I try to play with backing, the instinctive shapes that I know, take over. It's a bit like learning to left foot brake when racing a car, you're fine until you need to stop quickly and act on instinct then your right foot jumps in Here's some footage of just the shapes, let me know your thoughts please. A Major penta: https://youtu.be/NHTl0dMb5lQ Penta to use over IV: https://youtu.be/Xn_F-AOrYYI E dominant arpeggio: https://youtu.be/-zPU76gvpf8 -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Aug 22 2019, 02:09 PM |
Excellent! Now it's time to start building phrases!
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Aug 22 2019, 09:00 PM |
Thanks Gab,
Do you think I should just put a click on and not consider following the 12 bar for a while, just strum one of the chords and then play the relevant scale/arpeggio that you suggest, then another chord and do the same, then another etc for now? Just to get more comfortable with it all as I currently still find it hard to follow the chords in the backing. I can try to keep rhythm with the click in my phrases. Or do you suggest something else? It's a public holiday here on Monday so we are going HERE tomorrow and then onto somewhere I'm sure you'll have heard of HERE until Monday. Cheers buddy. This post has been edited by Phil66: Aug 22 2019, 09:03 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Aug 23 2019, 03:48 PM |
Hi Phil!
Yes, it's ok to try different ideas to work on the chord + phrasing improvisation. You can go for one or two measure for each chord to get more familiar with shapes and experiment with rhythm before getting into the whole blues progression. Those places are beautiful mate. It's awesome to see how many amazing buildings and cities you can visit in your country. Enjoy it!! -------------------- My lessons
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