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Jan 7 2016, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 7 2016, 01:13 PM)  1x12 vintage cab has arrived  Cool! why not mic. it and try with Vox until peavey arrives? 
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Jan 7 2016, 03:49 PM
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I will this evening, I'm at work at the moment, I had it delivered to work
Anything in particular you want to hear from the Vox or Blackstar with or without Hotbird? Also pick a guitar if you want Cheers
This post has been edited by Phil66: Jan 7 2016, 03:53 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE  “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 7 2016, 04:19 PM
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Thanks,
I don't think you get to see the mic, I'll check it later, I've put it here for reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZFNILSjBZs -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 7 2016, 05:34 PM
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Ah yeah seems its behind his leg, we can't cheat
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Jan 7 2016, 10:14 PM
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Thanks Todd,
Ok, first setup recordings. I can't get the recording to sound a thick and bassy as the actual cab at the moment, also, I can hear my pick hitting the strings actually from the guitar not the cab in the recording so I need to make a few changes. The mic was 1 inch from cone edge, perpendicular to grille nearly touching grille cloth. First riff on bridge pup second on neck. Gain full, thick channel. https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/vox-thick-full-gain-v30 Hotbird: Vol 12 o clock, tone 12 o clock, modern setting, amber clipping. Vox gain 9 o clock. https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/vox-thick-gain9-o-clock-with-hotbird-v30 Cheers gentlemen.
This post has been edited by Phil66: Jan 7 2016, 10:30 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 8 2016, 12:03 AM
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Thanks Mertay,
In the thick channel of the Vox the bass and treble controls are completely bypassed. Cheers -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 8 2016, 06:23 PM
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We couldn't get into the fuzz-side of the pedal much though did share sounds/ideas. This is a nice vid. about fuzz pedals, all sound different but might help on usage;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBRXBLwuxfY This post has been edited by Mertay: Jan 8 2016, 06:23 PM |
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Jan 8 2016, 09:37 PM
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Thanks Mertay,
Very interesting I don't think it's worth messing with the pedal just yet as we will have to start again with the Peavey Here are a couple of recordings with the Blackstar, mic position exactly the same as with the Vox. https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/blackstar-crunch-v30 https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/blackstar-full-gain-v30 This post has been edited by Phil66: Jan 8 2016, 10:04 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 9 2016, 06:54 AM
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Remember our talk about "room tone" ? If you have any other method of recording, even the mic on a video camera, you can leave it in the room several feet back from the cab to pickup up some "room tone" and mix this with the Mic tone. It will bring some of the bass you are hearing in the room back in to "the box" (the computer).
Also, the further you move the mic from the center of the cone and towards the edge of the 1x12 speaker, the more bass you will get Also, the way to avoid pick/string noise is to (ideally ) have the cab/mic in it's own recording/space/room and if that's not possible, then recording at higher volume will do the trick, one or the other is often required until this wonderful invention was unleashed on the world!! http://www.seelectronics.com/guitarf/  it can isolate the cab without having to buy an isolation cab and isolate vocals or what not. QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 7 2016, 04:14 PM) Thanks Todd, Ok, first setup recordings. I can't get the recording to sound a thick and bassy as the actual cab at the moment, also, I can hear my pick hitting the strings actually from the guitar not the cab in the recording so I need to make a few changes. The mic was 1 inch from cone edge, perpendicular to grille nearly touching grille cloth. First riff on bridge pup second on neck. Gain full, thick channel. https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/vox-thick-full-gain-v30 Hotbird: Vol 12 o clock, tone 12 o clock, modern setting, amber clipping. Vox gain 9 o clock. https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/vox-thick-gain9-o-clock-with-hotbird-v30 Cheers gentlemen. |
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Jan 9 2016, 10:55 AM
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Thanks Todd and Mertay
The mic is about an inch from the edge of the cone nearly touching the cloth. That isolator thing is just like what I had in mind to make using a a slice out of a plastic oil drum and some foam I guess ultimately, and I'm chuckling to myself because I'm not exactly a recording artist  I just love this side of things, I'd like an interface that can record two mics and a dry signal at once. But that's down the line. I see a lot of cab demo videos where there is an SM57 and another mic being used next to each other. I'm guessing the other mic is a condenser  In the room the cab sounds bigger, more open, looser, is hard to explain. Yes Mertay, a great buy for less than £100, well put together too, things like the piping around the grille cloth are a little uneven but when you consider the whole thing for the price of the cone is a great buy Cheers This post has been edited by Phil66: Jan 9 2016, 11:01 AM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 9 2016, 05:34 PM
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I'd be interested to hear what others think of the cab Mertay.
I can only record one input at one time so I wouldn't be able to record the xlr out of the Peavey, there may be a way to record from the USB out though. When the time is right, how about THIS? Currently available for just over £200. Cheers
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 9 2016, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 9 2016, 04:34 PM) When the time is right, how about THIS? Currently available for just over £200. The interface seems fine but I really don't trust firewire as its abandoned, my last soundcard worked 10 years for me and in that time period if one wants to re-new their computer firewire might be a problem. USB seems very secure for future. |
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Jan 9 2016, 05:54 PM
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Yeah but it's only FireWire compatible not exclusively FireWire
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 9 2016, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 9 2016, 04:54 PM) Yeah but it's only FireWire compatible not exclusively FireWire I'm not sure what you mean? |
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Jan 9 2016, 07:29 PM
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Sorry, what I meant was you don't HAVE to use FireWire but it is compatible with FireWire but you can use usb. BUT I've since found out there is no USB only FireWire and ADAT so that unit is not for me anyway
 That's the kind of thing I will have eventually and another mic. Sorry for the confusion mate
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