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post Dec 3 2007, 09:44 PM
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Gibson alonmg with Tronical GMBH (a German company) is offering new technology on their newest LP models, self tuning. That's right their newest LP models will be able to self tune in about 2 seconds. Read about it here: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071203/ap_on_...f_tuning_guitar

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post Dec 3 2007, 10:11 PM
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Thanks for the article, it sure is an interesting idea!! smile.gif

For me, Im not sure if I would like it or not. It sounds really handy, but I do like a traditional guitar ! biggrin.gif


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post Dec 3 2007, 10:13 PM
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http://www.gibson.com/robotguitar/

It's not nearly as expensive as I thought it would be. I was thinking somewhere from $4,000, but $2500 is cheap for something like that.


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post Dec 3 2007, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE (mattacuk @ Dec 3 2007, 10:11 PM) *
Thanks for the article, it sure is an interesting idea!! smile.gif

For me, Im not sure if I would like it or not. It sounds really handy, but I do like a traditional guitar ! biggrin.gif


Also and just to be a Luddite - it doesn't do you any harm to be able to tune a guitar manually wink.gif .

By all means go with this if you want but learn to tune a guitar as well smile.gif .


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post Dec 4 2007, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE (Alucard @ Dec 3 2007, 09:13 PM) *
http://www.gibson.com/robotguitar/

It's not nearly as expensive as I thought it would be. I was thinking somewhere from $4,000, but $2500 is cheap for something like that.


That's kinda scary cheap for a high tech LP. Maybe a discount for the poor [fatherless guitar testers] that will be beta testing. I wonder how long before the first hotfix. biggrin.gif

I looove that blue silverburst finish. Being nitro, I wonder how that'll age.

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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Dec 3 2007, 10:40 PM) *
Also and just to be a Luddite - it doesn't do you any harm to be able to tune a guitar manually wink.gif .

By all means go with this if you want but learn to tune a guitar as well smile.gif .


Agreed. It does seem that there is a manual mode.

It's out of my price range either way, but this would be a great time/money saver for the gigging player that's just starting out (not a ton of cash). Wouldn't have to bring along multiple guitars for diffferent tunings...just call them up as you need them on the fly.

I wonder how practical it would be to do something like change tuning in the middle of a song.


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post Dec 4 2007, 01:12 AM
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Dec 3 2007, 04:40 PM) *
Also and just to be a Luddite - it doesn't do you any harm to be able to tune a guitar manually wink.gif .

By all means go with this if you want but learn to tune a guitar as well smile.gif .


I pretty much am happy with whatever Jimmy Page had, distortion, echo, six stings on a block of wood.

Technology is driving society mad. If something is really a serious improvement on life, such as the Microwave oven was, or Scoopable kitty litter, I go for it. Otherwise I keep it simple.

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post Dec 4 2007, 01:12 AM
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Oh that's so funny - I wanna see the little tuning heads tune themselves!! laugh.gif
But it is practical if you play in many different tunings as I do - saves you having a host of guitars all tuned differently.


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post Dec 4 2007, 01:43 AM
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Yeah this is a very useful technology... wink.gif Gibson rules! I would love to have this on my guitar...


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post Dec 4 2007, 01:49 AM
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how do you tune it to drop d huh.gif


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post Dec 4 2007, 03:57 AM
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QUOTE (g-forcelover @ Dec 4 2007, 12:49 AM) *
how do you tune it to drop d huh.gif


One of the videos goes into that. There's a bunch of built-in tunings. Drop D was in there. Just a click away (or two). There wasn't a Drop C though.


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Isnt this like the 8th time this has been brought up on this forum?

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QUOTE (fkalich @ Dec 4 2007, 12:12 AM) *
I pretty much am happy with whatever Jimmy Page had, distortion, echo, six stings on a block of wood.


That six strings on a block of wood was a '59 LP burst. Don't forget the doubleneck 6/12 SG. Not as complex as JPJ's Mellotrons and GX1, but not hardly just wood with strings. And they did a hell of a lot with technology in the studio.

QUOTE (fkalich @ Dec 4 2007, 12:12 AM) *
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Don't knock it til you've tried it. tongue.gif

While I think that just getting one of these to not have to tune your guitar is kinda sad, I think there are some interesting possibilities.

I already mentioned changing tunings in the middle of a song. Maybe not so useful going from Standard to Drop D, but possibilities open up if you switch from Standard to Open C for a solo?

What happens when you try to fret notes when its tuning itself? Probably something weird. Maybe not musically interesting, but who knows?

What if there's a way to feed the tuners different data? Have it bend certain increments (1 or 2 steps) and then back? Hands-free behind the nut love (John 5)? Or Behind the nut bends while you're fretting strings? Or make it wobble for a vibrato effect?

Technology for technology's sake is kinda lame, but creative applications of technology can make some interesting results.


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QUOTE (Unleash-The-Shred @ Dec 4 2007, 04:08 AM) *
Isnt this like the 8th time this has been brought up on this forum?

Haha.

5th time me thinks


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post Dec 4 2007, 08:36 PM
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Interesting that they're touting it as the "world's first" and it's yet to be released when I remember seeing one of these 2 years ago:

http://www.gizmag.com/go/4951/


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post Dec 7 2007, 09:54 PM
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It sounds interesting but I dont think it will be that big of a hit amongst guitar players. I personally don't like any kinds of "robotic" quality in my guitars. But Im sure that some people out there like that kind of stuff very much. But I prefer just basic locking tuners like Schallers smile.gif

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post Dec 7 2007, 09:57 PM
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Does it have regular tuning? blink.gif laugh.gif wink.gif


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I beleive it has all kinds of tunings.

PS I too do not think that this is a handy feature because I like simplicity. It is a great invention but I am not that convinced yet... smile.gif


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Imagine you play a song and do some crazy stuff on it and than when its over you don't need to annoy the audience while you get your guitar back in tune wink.gif Now if this guitar could tune itself during play (if it gets out of tune) that would be awesome feature too wink.gif

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It doesn't have a setting for tuning down 1/2 step, which would get on my last nerve.


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I think this would be a great idea, but as their first generation product there is no way I'd rely on it. Gibson might make good guitars, but that's largely because they've been doing the same thing for decades. Adding a microprocessor, a bunch of servo motors, some extra pickups (for tuning) and software could really lead to reliability problems.

That said, they're awfully cheap for what they are - $4000 Aussie Dollars isn't a whole lot more than a normal LP. Oh, and the price in the article does not include the Powertune upgrade - that's an extra $900, so you're looking at around $3400 USD for the Gibson Robot.

What I find more interesting is that Gibson will be selling upgrade kits for all sorts of guitars, not just their own. The thought of being able to fit one of these to my existing guitar without damaging it is pretty cool.

I really like the idea behind this thing. Tuning a guitar is a pain in the neck, especially when you want to change tunings. I have to keep a guitar tuned drop-D all the time, simply because I hate changing between the two tunings. This would change all of that for me.


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