Kris-must Charm :: Audio Collaboration, GMC students and instructor collab
Darius Wave
Dec 19 2014, 07:15 PM
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Welcome to...

The KRIS-MUST CHARM collaboration



To celebrate those Christmas together, we've prapared an audio collaboration for all of You smile.gif The face of the collab is THE MAN himself - Kris Dahl! He was kind enough to prepare this "chocolate box cover type" of photo (I think You could easily sell it to the biggest candy trademarks) - thanx Kris! smile.gif


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So...how it's gonna look like?


1. It's an audio collaboration open for any GMC member, who is able to record a solo over delivered backing track
2. Backing track Attached File  kris_must_charm_collab_backing.mp3 ( 1.1MB ) Number of downloads: 903
is simple (key of D-major) and will allow everyone (no matter which skills level ) to join us smile.gif
3. Deadline to deliver Your solo is 03.01.2015
4. Post Your take in this topic (upload to soundcloud or similar)
5. Post Your files in this topic (mp3 with at least 128 kbps quality,16 bit wav files are warm welcome). We need two files - 1. Your solo without the backing track 2. Your solo mixed with the backing track for reference
6. If You want to join us so much, but You're not able to record guitar separately from the backing track, just give us what You have and We'll try to do our best, to fit it to the final collab mix
7. Tempo of the track is 140. You will save us a bit of time if Your'e able ti mixdown within exact bar markers in Your DAW (easier to sync in the final mix)
8. You can always count for additional help in this particular topic. Just ask - You'll get help from both - students and instructors smile.gif


..:: TIPS ::...


1. If You feel You're not familiar with major scale, You can use B-aeolina minor scale (it covers exactly the same notes as D-major). Even more simple - You can use just a B-minor pentatonic.

2. Need inspirations? Go to a search box above and review some of the lessons by typing "D-major". You can see some of the cool licks and phrasing tips right from the lessons available at GMC.

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EDIT - RESULTS:

THE FINAL MIX TIME!


First of all I would like to thank every single one of Your for all the effort to make this happen. I think again we brought something great by doing it together and showing it's not the skills level and not the playing genre but the kind of people we are that makes us able to enjoy doing such a collabs together...and "Nothing else matters" biggrin.gif Huge hugs to all of You!

Order of Appearance:

1. Jim S. - solo and backing electric guitar
2. Darius Wave - acoustic guitars
3. Rhida and Superize - jam
4. Beat Zbinden
5. HiimAlex
6. Nick6373
7. Huargo
8. Sensible Jones
9. Procyon
10. Renan & Phil66 - jam
11. Bleez + Chris S. - jam
12. DeGroot
13. Monica Gheorghevici
14. Cosmin Lupu
15. Guitarrero
16. Kristofer Dahl - vocal and guitar solo

http://soundcloud.com/dariuswave/kris-must-charm-gmc-students-and-instructors-collaboration

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Gitarrero
Dec 21 2014, 03:58 PM
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One of my resolutions for next year is to start recording stuff again.
So why not start early?

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Cosmin Lupu
Dec 22 2014, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Dec 21 2014, 02:58 PM) *
One of my resolutions for next year is to start recording stuff again.
So why not start early?

https://soundcloud.com/gitarrero/kris-must-charm-gmc-collab


Cheers Krise!

Welcome back man - i think you have a nice lyrical soft spot and the lines fit nicely over the track. Maybe a bit more dynamics - note length changes and maybe, just maybe, a little faster passage could make this shine even brighter wink.gif

QUOTE (Rhida @ Dec 21 2014, 07:02 PM) *
Right on!
A lot of GMCers already there! Very cool!

My takes now smile.gif


Hey mate smile.gif

As in Guitarrero's case, a little bit more dynamics would make give the recording justice smile.gif What do I really mean with that? Different note lengths and more variation from the rhythmic perspective, could be an idea.

If you haven't yet experimented with this approach, try singing a line in your head and then transpose it on the guitar until it sounds as close as possible to what you are hearing in your head. It will bring up unexpected surprises which you will enjoy for certain. Also, please take care with the bend around 0:16 as it is a bit under pitch wink.gif

QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Dec 22 2014, 07:22 AM) *
Hey Kris, thanks a lot for your kind words smile.gif First of all I'm happy you like my approach. Now, before anything, please any tiny detail you hear tell me and I will fix it. I want a pro sounding (like you said “whatever that means” unsure.gif ) and I guess you already understand that I'm not kidding when it's about my playing. So, any advice is welcome smile.gif

Yes, you have right and my type of sound is not very forgiving, but that's why I chose it, to make the mistakes visible wink.gif
Now about the new take. I tried to fix all the things that you told me and also I will explain you exactly what I done. I guess is the good way to be sure that I understand exactly your request. I let the guitar a little bit up in the mix because I wanted you to hear the new changes

00:09 – Done and also I thought to make the next two down bends more contoured for more precision in sound

00:14 - I didn't understand very well what you want to make here but I put an accent on that note because in the first take I had a decrescendo there. Also I made that note and previous note with the same value.

00:20 - no Kirk vibrato anymore biggrin.gif

00:27 - The idea in the first take was to make a bend and after I release the bend, to go directly in the left side with a slide, after that to touch very softly with the pick that note and go in right side with another slide without to use the pick for the final note. My purpose was a decrescendo in that part. Now, in the new take I pushed with more force the last slide and I pointed a little the vibrato for that particular note.

BTW if you hear added other new details (some slides at the final of phrases like 00:12 or some longer vibrato) it's because when become easy to play this, my hands play more details unconscious tongue.gif
So, what you think about the new take?

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hey Monica! Always nice to hear you on the collabs!

Now, listening to your take, I would like to emphasize on two important aspects:

- articulation - the bending could use a little bit more intention behind it - it sounds like you aren't really sure if you want to make the bends there and the vibrato could be wider and rounder. Don't rush it and let the notes breathe - you have plenty of space to do it wink.gif Right?
- direction - your phrases could use a bit more direction - maybe it's just me, but at some points, it feels like you don't know where to go next and you just sit in one place tryng to decide - see 0:10 for instance. Also, some of the notes that you land on, aren't as strong as they should be in relationship with the chord they are played up against.

These are fine tuning details and I am sure that you can make things work with a bit more focus on these aspects smile.gif

QUOTE (Procyon @ Dec 21 2014, 05:06 PM) *
Oh my - this background track is soooo very beautiful!! I could listen to it endlessly... In my opinion its quite hard to play a solo that doesn't destroy the magical smoothness of this track. So I tried to play something very minimalistic to make the background track shine thru.


Hey mate - nice dynamics and tone! The phrasing and touch are very fitting to the track, so I can only congratulate you and wish you a warm welcome in the collab smile.gif

QUOTE (Beat Zbinden @ Dec 21 2014, 03:59 PM) *
I'm in

Here is my first idea for this collab
Not the finish version


Hey Beat! Nice one man! I like the phrasing and the tone and your melodic touch that is so present in all the recordings you have come up with so far. I would just focus a bit on the articulation side of things - see, for instance, just before the half of the take there are some bends which are slightly under pitched. Play them with more conviction and attention to pitch and you will have a great take!

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- Darius Wave   Kris-must Charm :: Audio Collaboration   Dec 19 2014, 07:15 PM
- - Kristofer Dahl   I'm in!!!   Dec 19 2014, 07:33 PM
- - Monica Gheorghevici   Hahaha.....I know who made the backing Belongs to...   Dec 19 2014, 08:28 PM
- - HiimAlex   Well this will be my first collaboration ever but ...   Dec 19 2014, 09:35 PM
|- - Kristofer Dahl   QUOTE (HiimAlex @ Dec 19 2014, 09:35 PM) ...   Dec 19 2014, 09:42 PM
|- - HiimAlex   QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Dec 19 2014, 09:4...   Dec 19 2014, 10:19 PM
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- - Rhida   I'm in too!   Dec 19 2014, 10:39 PM
- - Chris S.   Count me in!   Dec 19 2014, 11:21 PM
- - Bas Cuthach   is that march 1st or January 3rd?   Dec 20 2014, 03:01 AM
- - Cosmin Lupu   Me too   Dec 20 2014, 08:51 AM
- - bleez   QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Dec 19 2014, 06:15 P...   Dec 20 2014, 09:38 AM
- - Darius Wave   Nice to see so much of You already! I'm ex...   Dec 20 2014, 01:26 PM
- - superize   I am in on this collab This is what i have come u...   Dec 20 2014, 05:51 PM
|- - Kristofer Dahl   QUOTE (superize @ Dec 20 2014, 05:51 PM) ...   Dec 20 2014, 11:05 PM
|- - Darius Wave   QUOTE (superize @ Dec 20 2014, 04:51 PM) ...   Dec 21 2014, 04:18 PM
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- - huargo   Hi! of course i'm in too... i'm in ...   Dec 21 2014, 10:08 AM
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- - Beat Zbinden   I'm in Here is my first idea for this collab...   Dec 21 2014, 04:59 PM
|- - Kristofer Dahl   QUOTE (Beat Zbinden @ Dec 21 2014, 04:59 ...   Dec 21 2014, 09:34 PM
|- - Beat Zbinden   [quote name='Kristofer Dahl' date='Dec...   Dec 24 2014, 01:42 PM
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- - Gitarrero   Hey Darius, thanks for the quick feedback! I ...   Dec 21 2014, 05:27 PM
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- - Darius Wave   he he Ok. I only mena I know You have much more s...   Dec 21 2014, 05:58 PM
- - Procyon   Oh my - this background track is soooo very beauti...   Dec 21 2014, 06:06 PM
- - Darius Wave   All Your solos by far are really melodic and I enj...   Dec 21 2014, 06:47 PM
- - Monica Gheorghevici   Here it's my take Darek - thank you so much ...   Dec 21 2014, 07:16 PM
|- - Kristofer Dahl   QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Dec 21 2014, 07...   Dec 21 2014, 10:01 PM
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- - Rhida   Right on! A lot of GMCers already there! V...   Dec 21 2014, 08:02 PM
|- - Kristofer Dahl   QUOTE (Rhida @ Dec 21 2014, 08:02 PM) Rig...   Dec 21 2014, 10:38 PM
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- - Darius Wave   Thanx for the support Kris! I hope Guitarrero ...   Dec 21 2014, 09:14 PM
- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Dec 21 2014, 09:0...   Dec 22 2014, 08:22 AM
- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Cosmin Lupu @ Dec 22 2014, 11:47 A...   Dec 22 2014, 01:12 PM
|- - Kristofer Dahl   QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Dec 22 2014, 01...   Dec 22 2014, 02:45 PM
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- - Procyon   Thank you very much for your feedback, Darius, Kri...   Dec 22 2014, 04:41 PM
|- - Kristofer Dahl   QUOTE (Procyon @ Dec 22 2014, 04:41 PM) T...   Dec 22 2014, 11:36 PM
|- - SirJamsalot   QUOTE (Procyon @ Dec 22 2014, 07:41 AM) T...   Dec 27 2014, 01:07 AM
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- - Rhida   I love how everyone is so involved with this one. ...   Dec 22 2014, 06:03 PM
- - Monica Gheorghevici   @Kris: Thank you that you understand what I mea...   Dec 22 2014, 06:30 PM
- - Darius Wave   Well Kris take a good care about You all...seems l...   Dec 22 2014, 06:33 PM
- - Phil66   Ok folks, here's my little attempt. I'm no...   Dec 22 2014, 10:07 PM
- - huargo   Uff high level here! This is my take... or ...   Dec 22 2014, 10:13 PM
- - Monica Gheorghevici   QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Dec 22 2014, 05:33 P...   Dec 23 2014, 08:58 AM
- - Darius Wave   Of course Monica! I had no bad intention writt...   Dec 23 2014, 11:05 AM
- - huargo   QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Dec 23 2014, 11:05 A...   Dec 23 2014, 12:37 PM
- - Rhida   So Darius I still figure how to use reaper with t...   Dec 23 2014, 05:58 PM
|- - Kristofer Dahl   QUOTE (Rhida @ Dec 23 2014, 05:58 PM) So ...   Dec 23 2014, 10:19 PM
|- - Phil66   QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Dec 23 2014, 10:1...   Dec 23 2014, 10:29 PM
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- - Monica Gheorghevici   @Kris: Back again with a new change over 00:26-00:...   Dec 23 2014, 09:21 PM
- - Phil66   Hello everyone, Back again, very similar, timing ...   Dec 23 2014, 09:45 PM
- - Darius Wave   Huargo - It's great to know You can spot the ...   Dec 23 2014, 11:29 PM
|- - Rhida   QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Dec 23 2014, 11:29 P...   Dec 24 2014, 03:37 PM
|- - Darius Wave   QUOTE (Rhida @ Dec 24 2014, 02:37 PM) All...   Dec 25 2014, 03:15 PM
|- - Phil66   QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Dec 25 2014, 03:15 P...   Dec 25 2014, 05:01 PM
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- - Cosmin Lupu   Who else is in on this one? I see you guys are wor...   Dec 24 2014, 12:09 PM
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- - Monica Gheorghevici   @Kris: I'm happy that we have ready the take a...   Dec 24 2014, 02:03 PM
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- - Phil66   Ok take 3. I changed the double stops in the endi...   Dec 24 2014, 09:39 PM
- - Jim S.   Merry Xmas you guitar slinging, yellow snow eating...   Dec 25 2014, 02:17 AM
- - Chris S.   Hey guys - great work so far, super excited to be ...   Dec 25 2014, 09:07 AM
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- - Chris S.   Thanks for the honest feedback Darius! I know...   Dec 25 2014, 05:16 PM
- - DeGroot   Merry Christmas all, Here is a draft I just came ...   Dec 25 2014, 06:03 PM
|- - Jim S.   QUOTE (DeGroot @ Dec 25 2014, 01:03 PM) M...   Dec 26 2014, 01:12 AM
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- - Chris S.   So I tried to knock out the tritone hanging on the...   Dec 26 2014, 07:15 AM
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- - Renan   Hey , I have 2 takes ! https://soundcloud.co...   Dec 26 2014, 11:43 AM
|- - Kristofer Dahl   QUOTE (Renan @ Dec 26 2014, 11:43 AM) htt...   Dec 27 2014, 12:04 AM
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- - Rhida   Hi! Not a new take. Just messing with the so...   Dec 26 2014, 09:44 PM
|- - Cosmin Lupu   QUOTE (Rhida @ Dec 26 2014, 08:44 PM) Hi...   Dec 27 2014, 10:24 AM
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- - Jim S.   QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Dec 25 2014, 10:45 A...   Dec 26 2014, 10:02 PM
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- - DeGroot   Thanks for all the feedback. @Darius- Heeeeey, no...   Dec 26 2014, 11:14 PM
- - Rhida   Thanks Cosmin! I will do my best   Dec 27 2014, 11:57 AM
- - bleez   ... with a little trepidation, here's what Ive...   Dec 27 2014, 06:03 PM
- - Phil66   Hello everyone. Another take, I'm struggling ...   Dec 27 2014, 09:18 PM
- - DeGroot   Here is a completely new version. Just ordered so...   Dec 28 2014, 01:01 AM
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- - Phil66   Ok everyone, Another try. The very last lick feel...   Dec 28 2014, 09:31 PM
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