Is Ear Training Important? |
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Is Ear Training Important? |
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Dec 12 2014, 04:05 PM |
Well, we all know that it is, but to what degree can you train your ears to hear perfect pitch and then recreate exactly what you just heard?
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Dec 12 2014, 05:47 PM |
Sweet Lord!
Imagine that - she never needs tabs |
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Dec 12 2014, 10:03 PM |
Hehehe I've seen this video today and was amazed.
I think ear training comes with territory. The better we get on the instrument (=the more time we spend playing), the more our ear develops but ear training specifically helps speed up the process. It seems natural that developed musician can play melodies "by ear" and being able to translate what he hears or imagines onto the instrument. The girl in the video can obviously play really really well. On the other hand, I don't think ear training alone is a requirement for everyone. It depends in which dimension we want to master the instrument. How far do we want to take it? IMO - enjoying the instrument is number 1 priority. One shouldn't feel inferior if he can't really figure out effectively songs or solos he hears but can learn chord songs or figure out songs using tabs. I'll bite the bullet and even say: ear training and music theory are NOT necessary. They of course help like many other things you can do to improve on the instrument but you can still do EVERYTHING (gigging, composing, playing with bands etc) without digging into those topics, if you feel like taking such path. -------------------- For GMC support please email support (at) guitarmasterclass.net
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Dec 13 2014, 05:23 PM |
She's very good but what she demonstrates is not that uncommon, especially if she has perfect pitch.
Any professional classical piano player would be able to do that and most pro session players too. Those melodies and harmonies are not really that complicated. Also that video is edited so who knows if she had a 2nd and 3rd try at them. *Having said all that, training your pitch is one of the most important things you can do as a musician. Music is an auditory art. You 'need' to be able to hear and translate effectively. This post has been edited by klasaine: Dec 13 2014, 05:26 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Dec 14 2014, 06:47 AM |
This is a great program for ear training
http://www.miles.be/software/34-functional-ear-trainer-v2 -------------------- My SoundCloud
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Dec 14 2014, 08:17 PM
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I think that each and every one of us should train his ears daily - learn to recognize what you hear and you will have a FAR easier time figuring out anything on your instrument and on a lot of other instruments as well. Imagine that the only barrier between a person that has a very well trained sense of hearing and playing any instrument is theoretically the practicing on that particular instrument. Otherwise, you will know what you want to hear from that instrument and with a bit of time given, you will also obtain it. For instance, I can play Jingle Bells on a bagpipe as soon as I will learn how to phisically play that bagpipe Very true ear training is all encompassing. The same ear-training regime benefits me for electric guitar and walking bass Jazz. I dot a lot of ear training in which I sing because it would make sense for the part of the brain responsible for perception of sound to be more closely linked to the part responsible for ones voice, rather than the guitar playing fingers, therefore the voice bridging the gap between your perception of sound and the fingers. Watching your video at 1:57 resonated with me and other good sources that said similar, such as how I once noticed Guthry Govan say you should be able to sing what you play. ~ Children tend to have perfect pitch more than adults and find it easier to learn because of the following… Quote: “By the time an infant is two or three years old, the number of synapses is approximately 15,000 per neuron. This amount is about twice that of the average adult brain." The important part: Quote: "The connections that are not reinforced by sensory stimulation eventually weaken, and the connections that are reinforced become stronger. Eventually, efficient pathways of neural connections are carved out.” http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/...neuroplasticity If you have a child you are getting to do music, now is the time to integrate ear training. It's why adults don’t have perfect pitch if they haven’t learnt as a child and why it's hard for them to learn it as adults. I’ve been trying and it’s like trying to sense something you aren’t designed to, as though squinting your eyes to trying to see infra-red. Very hard! -------------------- Founder of new startup social network site that brings the good aspects of MySpace, Twitter and FaceBook together.
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Dec 14 2014, 10:16 PM |
I think that each and every one of us should train his ears daily - learn to recognize what you hear and you will have a FAR easier time figuring out anything on your instrument and on a lot of other instruments as well. Imagine that the only barrier between a person that has a very well trained sense of hearing and playing any instrument is theoretically the practicing on that particular instrument. Otherwise, you will know what you want to hear from that instrument and with a bit of time given, you will also obtain it. For instance, I can play Jingle Bells on a bagpipe as soon as I will learn how to phisically play that bagpipe Cosmin, In order to play bagpipes you have to eat haggis daily. It's part of the initiation Just as an offshoot on this thread, what do you all make of this? Do you think that if we were taught at school to recognise notes, as we are taught to recognise colours, we would all be able to have perfect pitch? Unless of cause we are colour blind or tone deaf. Phil This post has been edited by Phil66: Dec 15 2014, 10:45 AM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Dec 15 2014, 04:30 PM |
I was taught to find songs you like with the first 2 notes (words) in different intervals , with each song having a different one than the next. If you have a song for every interval ,that you can hum at any time, it will give you a good head start in implementing what your hear in your head. This is just what Cosmin has been preaching for a while , trust him, it works. Thank you for your kind words, mate I'd be glad to know it helped you too - can you share the experience? I am really curious Cosmin, In order to play bagpipes you have to eat haggis daily. It's part of the initiation Just as an offshoot on this thread, what do you all make of this? Do you think that if we were taught at school to recognise notes, as we are taught to recognise colours, we would all be able to have perfect pitch? Unless of cause we are colour blind or tone deaf. Phil I am certain of it - here, check this video out in which Victor Wooten talks about the idea: Very good points here - I think that Victor's video relates to what you said in pretty darn accurate manner Very true ear training is all encompassing. The same ear-training regime benefits me for electric guitar and walking bass Jazz. I dot a lot of ear training in which I sing because it would make sense for the part of the brain responsible for perception of sound to be more closely linked to the part responsible for ones voice, rather than the guitar playing fingers, therefore the voice bridging the gap between your perception of sound and the fingers. Watching your video at 1:57 resonated with me and other good sources that said similar, such as how I once noticed Guthry Govan say you should be able to sing what you play. ~ Children tend to have perfect pitch more than adults and find it easier to learn because of the following… Quote: “By the time an infant is two or three years old, the number of synapses is approximately 15,000 per neuron. This amount is about twice that of the average adult brain." The important part: Quote: "The connections that are not reinforced by sensory stimulation eventually weaken, and the connections that are reinforced become stronger. Eventually, efficient pathways of neural connections are carved out.” http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/...neuroplasticity If you have a child you are getting to do music, now is the time to integrate ear training. It's why adults don’t have perfect pitch if they haven’t learnt as a child and why it's hard for them to learn it as adults. I’ve been trying and it’s like trying to sense something you aren’t designed to, as though squinting your eyes to trying to see infra-red. Very hard! |
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Dec 15 2014, 08:00 PM |
There's a ton of interval recognition by song resources out there ...
http://www.people.vcu.edu/~bhammel/theory/..._recognize.html http://www.eartrainingmastery.com/en/blog-...als-recognition http://www.vicfirth.com/education/percussi...1/Intervals.pdf This is a great way to train yourself. *You can also do it with tempo. Any 'march' (or disco song) is usually 120 bpm. Half of that is 60 bpm. It's easy to approximate anything else. Also, if your watch has a second hand or can 'click' seconds you've got 60 bpm ... double that for 120. -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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Dec 18 2014, 05:46 PM |
It's really important to note - super important if not the most important in fact to realize or understand that these folks like V. Wooten or the pianist in the OP vid or any professional musician was and is surrounded by music from an early age. Listening to and hearing music is like breathing for them.
My 5 year old has heard music - hears music - all day, every day (when he's at home) since his first ride home from the hospital. He can sing in tune and in time. He sings little songs to himself all day long. Now he's 'requesting' music from me and my wife. His taste isn't much different than probably most 5 year old's but he actively engages in wanting to hear it. He may not become a musician but he'll at least have a deep appreciation and understanding of music. You don't have to do it starting at birth or even as a little kid but if you're at all serious about at least getting better and being moderately proficient as a hobbyist - ? ... you absolutely need to listen to music as the sole activity at least an hour a day (at the very least - it should actually be a lot more). This post has been edited by klasaine: Dec 18 2014, 06:50 PM -------------------- - Ken Lasaine
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