Rec Concerns/feedback |
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Rec Concerns/feedback |
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Aug 8 2019, 10:14 PM |
The REC Zone can be frustrating for sure. It is brutal, if you want more tame feedback you can just post your video in the forum and the instructors will comment and give advice but the REC Zone is like an examination area. I've had my own issues with it which have been discussed at length.
Watch the video below, it's from THIS thread when the last big changes were made. It might help if you read through the thread and the one after it HERE it may answer some of your questions. Is always good to put your opinion out there though buddy https://youtu.be/fuYJUVNfo-8 Cheers buddy -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Aug 14 2019, 02:54 PM |
Interesting thoughts Matt
I'd keep posting those takes at REC board and just take as much pro advice as you can from GMC's instructors. I get your point of practicing 3 different lessons instead of "nailing" just one, and the truth is you can and should do that if that's what makes practice better for you. Aside from instructor's advice, which is technical, no one judges how a member takes advantage of the different tools the site offers to learn, become a better player or just have plain fun doing this or that. It's a personal journey in which each individual finds what better suits themselves and no one should feel bad whether they get a 3 or a 9 in a REC take. It has the importance that you give it yourself. Maybe you are pushing yourself too hard? I don't know. Just post as many as you wish, take the advice to make your playing better, and keep rocking! Hope to see many more takes from you and everyone else there at REC. Forget/enjoy the grading. Up to you -------------------- Guitars:
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Aug 14 2019, 09:00 PM |
Mat,
I've been through a lot with REC, it took me a long time to see the light. A beginners lesson is what it is. It is a lesson that a beginner should be able to play cleanly and accurately, with practise the beginner should be able to come close to the instructor. It's not like the instructor is playing it well because they are a pro, they think it is achievable to play it almost as well as them. Why should a beginner pass with sloppy execution on a level 1 lesson just because they are a beginner? The execution should be excellent but the piece is much less demanding so as to fit the skills of the beginner. Think about exams. Let's say the pass rate is 75%. 10-year-olds STILL have to get 75% but the questions are set for their level, 18-year-olds still have to get 75% but the questions are set for their level. Nobody is expecting 10-year-olds to get 75% in an exam that is set for 18-year-olds but 18-year-olds should get 100% in an exam set for 10-year-olds. Personally, I still think the judges should use more 1s, 2s and 3s. For example, your current Beginner's Solo take in REC, great effort and trust me, I know how hard that piece is but, I still think they are being generous. Personally, I think a 3 or a 4 maximum BUT, because you've been given one 6, which is effectively a pass, you are going to get disheartened when you next submit a take because you will have improved but you may get a 6 and two 5s, then next time you'll get two 6s and a 5, then you get into the territory of some areas improving and other areas diminshing and again get two 6s and a 5, trust me I've been there, and I'm 100% not critisizing your playing, I'm not the best by any stretch of the imagination but I can still see what is needed in that piece. My old argument about REC still stands. If someone makes it through a piece from start to finish, well done, in fact well done for even having the balls to enter a take in REC, but if there are a lot of mistakes, poor timing, bad rhythm etc, then it should be a three 2s, at least next time you may get a 3 and two 2s (progress). This prevents false hope but, as Darius said in the video I posted, as a group we are thought of like family, and they don't want to "offend" or "upset" us but, it can be counter-productive giving higher than earned points because despondency sets in as more takes are submitted. I mean no offence or criticism here (only constructive), and I wish you well in your journey, but if you don't want to be brutally assessed don't enter the REC arena. Keep it in the forum where it will be more mild, less harsh and no points to be concerned about. Cheers buddy, and don't think about leaving, GMC is much much more than the REC Zone. Peace -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Aug 15 2019, 01:53 PM |
Hi mate! This is an excellent post! Thanks for your feedback.
There is a thread at my personal board called "How do I grade at REC". I'm copying it here: "Hello GMCers! I copy my criteria for grading at REC here to have it as reference: I've been thinking on a new approach in order to decide the grade that I'll give to the takes. Kris send me some old grading guidelines that included this topics: 1, Rhythm placement: Overall ability to play in rhythm and keep a steady tempo. This aspect should take into consideration the groove factor of certain lessons such as topics involving shuffle or swing type of rhythm. 2. Cleanness: The cleanness factor evaluates the student's ability to play something with clarity and precision. This is indicative of the overall level of playing as well as the amount of practice of this particular lesson 3. Feel: The feel factor determines if the student shows comfort in the chosen musical piece. Several factors are included in the feel criteria such as rhythm placement, posture and overall lesson execution. 4. Posture: Posture determines if the student is holding the instrument correctly and shows comfort while playing. This criteria should of course take into account the difficulty of the lesson. 5. Sound: The sound factor will grade the student's tone and ability to play a piece with a similar type of sound. This section will not give advantage to students with more expensive gear, it is more of a general way to see if you can chose an appropriate tone to the lesson you're working on. Each of these topics mean 2/10 of the total grade, and I'll include: 0, 0.5, 1, 1.5 and 2. The final grade will be the sum of everything. If I get a "x.5" I'll go to the closer low number. For example if the sum of everything is 5.5, my grade will be 5. I'll do this internally, I won't publish this method and individual concepts grades every time I evaluate a take but I wanted to share with you my new approach." We try to go very deep with our feedback because we want to help GMCers the more possible. Comments and evaluation is very subjective and that's why more than 1 instructor gives feedback for each take. Regarding Tone, I don't think that you have to clone the original lesson, but you need to use a tone that fits well with the backing and playing style. This post has been edited by Gabriel Leopardi: Aug 15 2019, 02:52 PM -------------------- My lessons
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