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Alex Feather
post Aug 9 2012, 05:57 PM
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Hello! I am very happy you have decided to join my theory mentoring program!
I have a few questions before we will start!
-What are your goals?
-What is your weakness?
-What is your strongest point?
-Your favorite guitar players?

Theory questions (will help me to get a better idea where to start! )

- Harmonize G major scale
- Build A7 chord
- Write ii - V - I chord progression starting with Cmi7
- D mi7 - Bb - Gmi - F What key this chord progression in?

Looking forward to start working with you!


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post Aug 9 2012, 09:38 PM
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Hi!
I am really looking forward to the mentoring program!!!

-What are your goals?
improve my guitar playing. I just wanna be able to play whats in my head and express myself better on the instrument. It´s hard for me to think of the logical "next" chord when I am writing songs and creating solos is a thing of its own.

-What is your weakness?

well, I think I am bad at playing by ear and I somehow often seem to play the same licks and phrases over and over again. I know that there are modes but I never really understood them. And I think I am a sloopy player.
-What is your strongest point?

I use and mix different styles in the various band situations so that I often end up not playing the obvious thing. For instance I learn some country licks and phrases and use them in the next rock song and somehow they fit and do not sounds too country but fit into the song.
-Your favorite guitar players?

Andy Timmons, Steve Vai, Adrian Smith, and dozens of others.....

Theory questions (will help me to get a better idea where to start! )

- Harmonize G major scale

Gmajor, Aminor, Bminor, Cmajor, Dmajor, Eminor, Fis mi7, Gmajor
- Build A7 chord
A, Cis, E, Gis
- Write ii - V - I chord progression starting with Cmi7
Cmi7, Es, Bb
- D mi7 - Bb - Gmi - F What key this chord progression in?

F major
I am happy to answer more questions....

Looking forward to rhe program



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post Aug 11 2012, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE (wollace03 @ Aug 9 2012, 08:38 PM) *
Hi!
I am really looking forward to the mentoring program!!!

-What are your goals?
improve my guitar playing. I just wanna be able to play whats in my head and express myself better on the instrument. It´s hard for me to think of the logical "next" chord when I am writing songs and creating solos is a thing of its own.

-What is your weakness?

well, I think I am bad at playing by ear and I somehow often seem to play the same licks and phrases over and over again. I know that there are modes but I never really understood them. And I think I am a sloopy player.
-What is your strongest point?

I use and mix different styles in the various band situations so that I often end up not playing the obvious thing. For instance I learn some country licks and phrases and use them in the next rock song and somehow they fit and do not sounds too country but fit into the song.
-Your favorite guitar players?

Andy Timmons, Steve Vai, Adrian Smith, and dozens of others.....

Theory questions (will help me to get a better idea where to start! )

- Harmonize G major scale

Gmajor, Aminor, Bminor, Cmajor, Dmajor, Eminor, Fis mi7, Gmajor
- Build A7 chord
A, Cis, E, Gis
- Write ii - V - I chord progression starting with Cmi7
Cmi7, Es, Bb
- D mi7 - Bb - Gmi - F What key this chord progression in?

F major
I am happy to answer more questions....

Looking forward to rhe program

Hi! I like the same players as you are! smile.gif
I did a track with Andy Timmons and Steve Vai!
Both of them are amazing players!

You have made a few mistakes:
To harmonize G major scale you made one mistake in the end on F#mi7b5
G maj7 - Ami7 - Bmi7 - Cmaj7 - D7 - Emi7 - F#half diminished or mi7b5
A7 is a dominant chord so 7 should be flat
We will have A- C# - E- G (instead of G#)
For ii - V - I chord progression we will have
Cmi7 - F7 - Bbmaj7
It is incorrect to use E# it is exist but used in very rare cases in this situation we need F otherwise you will have #IV not V
The key progression can be in two keys Bb and F
here is how to look at it:
D mi7 - Bb - Gmi - F
F major scale harmonized:
F - Gmi - Ami - Bb - C - Dmi - E dim


Bb major scale harmonized:

Bb - Cmi - Dmi - Eb - F - Gmi - Adim


You can see that the triads are the same in both keys so unless I will be using 7th chords it can be both!

Let me know if you have any questions and we will move on! smile.gif


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post Aug 13 2012, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Aug 11 2012, 10:49 PM) *
You have made a few mistakes:
To harmonize G major scale you made one mistake in the end on F#mi7b5
G maj7 - Ami7 - Bmi7 - Cmaj7 - D7 - Emi7 - F#half diminished or mi7b5
A7 is a dominant chord so 7 should be flat
We will have A- C# - E- G (instead of G#)
For ii - V - I chord progression we will have
Cmi7 - F7 - Bbmaj7
It is incorrect to use E# it is exist but used in very rare cases in this situation we need F otherwise you will have #IV not V
The key progression can be in two keys Bb and F
here is how to look at it:
D mi7 - Bb - Gmi - F
F major scale harmonized:
F - Gmi - Ami - Bb - C - Dmi - E dim


Bb major scale harmonized:

Bb - Cmi - Dmi - Eb - F - Gmi - Adim


You can see that the triads are the same in both keys so unless I will be using 7th chords it can be both!


wow, must be amazing and a memory for a lifetime to play with andy timmons ans/or steve vai!!!

I have a few questions:
the A major scale is:
A Bmin Cis D E Fis Gis A --> so why is there a G in the A7 chord? doesn´t the 7 mean that you add the 7th degree to the triad?
Is the 7th always diminished?

If so then I see why you can only see what chord progression you have when there is the 7th degree used...

very tricky.....



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post Aug 13 2012, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (wollace03 @ Aug 13 2012, 09:01 AM) *
wow, must be amazing and a memory for a lifetime to play with andy timmons ans/or steve vai!!!

I have a few questions:
the A major scale is:
A Bmin Cis D E Fis Gis A --> so why is there a G in the A7 chord? doesn´t the 7 mean that you add the 7th degree to the triad?
Is the 7th always diminished?

If so then I see why you can only see what chord progression you have when there is the 7th degree used...

very tricky.....

I think your confusion is coming from cis smile.gif
Let's start calling sharp and flat and use symbols # and b
It will make it easier for you in the future!
You are using abbreviation from classical music and there is nothing wrongs with that, but using # and b will make your life easier!
Now! A7 is V of D major scale which is
D - E- F#- G - A- B - C#

If we will build A7 chord we will get A- C#- E- G

I think you are talking about Amaj7 which is G# and if this was the case you would be absolutely correct!

Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything!


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post Aug 14 2012, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Aug 14 2012, 12:56 AM) *
I think your confusion is coming from cis smile.gif
Let's start calling sharp and flat and use symbols # and b
It will make it easier for you in the future!
You are using abbreviation from classical music and there is nothing wrongs with that, but using # and b will make your life easier!
Now! A7 is V of D major scale which is
D - E- F#- G - A- B - C#

If we will build A7 chord we will get A- C#- E- G

I think you are talking about Amaj7 which is G# and if this was the case you would be absolutely correct!

Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything!


I didn´t see that there is a difference between A7 and Amaj7 - I always thought that if there is only a letter without anything (f.i. maj or min) than it is always major...
so when do I use maj and when do I use nothing?

Another huge question is how to apply all this theory to the guitar......



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post Aug 15 2012, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE (wollace03 @ Aug 14 2012, 07:56 AM) *
I didn´t see that there is a difference between A7 and Amaj7 - I always thought that if there is only a letter without anything (f.i. maj or min) than it is always major...
so when do I use maj and when do I use nothing?

Another huge question is how to apply all this theory to the guitar......

It is very simple! Every time you have V(dominant) chord it will be 7
Every I and IV will be maj7

To apply it into your playing I have created a backing track!
http://soundcloud.com/alex-feather-akimov/chord-progression
The chord progression is:
Dmi - Bb - Gmi - F
I would like you to create a solo pretending it is in the key of F
You can use
D minor pentatonic
F major pentatonic
F major scale
D minor scale
Try to be as melodic as possible and let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything! smile.gif


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post Aug 15 2012, 06:05 PM
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thanx..great!

I will upload a take as soon as I have one ready that sounds good.....


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post Aug 16 2012, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE (wollace03 @ Aug 15 2012, 05:05 PM) *
thanx..great!

I will upload a take as soon as I have one ready that sounds good.....

Perfect! Looking forward to it! smile.gif Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything!


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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Aug 16 2012, 07:11 PM) *
Perfect! Looking forward to it! smile.gif Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything!


It was nice talking to you today... will work on my articulation and try to bring it into my solo lesson you gave me...

by the way, with whom are you touring through america right now??


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post Aug 17 2012, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE (wollace03 @ Aug 16 2012, 06:01 PM) *
It was nice talking to you today... will work on my articulation and try to bring it into my solo lesson you gave me...

by the way, with whom are you touring through america right now??

Sounds good! I am looking forward to hear your take!
I am on tour with a band called Red Elvises right now plus doing a few clinics in Montana


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post Aug 19 2012, 08:46 PM
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hi!

here is my first try on your chord progression.. the solo guitar is a little too loud and I just started to record after jamming for same time and there are some mistakes but I wanted to uploade a first take to hear your opinion on it.
It is plain improvisation...as I said I just noodled around and recorded with the br 80...

Attached File  ChordProg_Impro_1.mp3 ( 4.52MB ) Number of downloads: 115


by the way..red elvises has a great band concept!


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post Aug 20 2012, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE (wollace03 @ Aug 19 2012, 07:46 PM) *
hi!

here is my first try on your chord progression.. the solo guitar is a little too loud and I just started to record after jamming for same time and there are some mistakes but I wanted to uploade a first take to hear your opinion on it.
It is plain improvisation...as I said I just noodled around and recorded with the br 80...

Attached File  ChordProg_Impro_1.mp3 ( 4.52MB ) Number of downloads: 115


by the way..red elvises has a great band concept!

Yu did a very nice job! The sound reminds me of Santana!
What guitar you are using?

Also good job on the solo! I would like you to:
- make it shorter like two runs through
-Let's limit the position and the scale!
Use only two D minor pentatonics




When you will start playing try to build up the solo and start very simple and slow and develop it towards the end!
Question and Answer technique will work great for this type of solo!
Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything!

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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Aug 20 2012, 07:27 PM) *
Yu did a very nice job! The sound reminds me of Santana!
What guitar you are using?

I used an Ibanez RG560 from 1991 with the neck pickup which I changed to a Di Marzio Air Norton..

Thanx for your comments ... can´t wait to start practicing and recording my new takes...


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post Aug 22 2012, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE (wollace03 @ Aug 20 2012, 09:13 PM) *
I used an Ibanez RG560 from 1991 with the neck pickup which I changed to a Di Marzio Air Norton..

Thanx for your comments ... can´t wait to start practicing and recording my new takes...

Awesome!!! You have a very nice guitar! smile.gif
Try to apply my advices to the solo and give it a try!!!
Looking forward to hear your take! smile.gif


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post Aug 22 2012, 11:33 PM
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hi!

so, this is another take I recorded trying to implement your suggestions into my solo...
there are some mistakes in it but I just want to hear your opinion on this one.......

Attached File  chord_prog2.wav ( 26.58MB ) Number of downloads: 103


can´t wait to hear your opinion..


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post Aug 24 2012, 05:21 AM
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QUOTE (wollace03 @ Aug 22 2012, 10:33 PM) *
hi!

so, this is another take I recorded trying to implement your suggestions into my solo...
there are some mistakes in it but I just want to hear your opinion on this one.......

Attached File  chord_prog2.wav ( 26.58MB ) Number of downloads: 103


can´t wait to hear your opinion..

You did a great job!!! Very melodic and smart solo!!! I like it a lot!
Now I would like you to use two shapes of G minor pentatonic




Create another solo using only those shapes and try to hear the difference between D minor and G minor pentatonics
Let me know if you have any questions or need help with anything!


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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Aug 24 2012, 06:21 AM) *
You did a great job!!! Very melodic and smart solo!!! I like it a lot!


hi!
thanx!

on question:
playing the D minor shapes over the key of F is logic to me, but playing G minor - what does this mean in a music theoretical sense... G minor is the second degree of the key of F.
Is this just a way to use all the 5 shapes? or is there a deeper theoretical aspect behind? now we are coming to the theoretical stuff where I know that there is something but I cannot visualize it....

can´t wait to try the shapes and listen to the difference to the D min shapes.....


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post Aug 26 2012, 05:32 AM
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QUOTE (wollace03 @ Aug 24 2012, 06:57 AM) *
hi!
thanx!

on question:
playing the D minor shapes over the key of F is logic to me, but playing G minor - what does this mean in a music theoretical sense... G minor is the second degree of the key of F.
Is this just a way to use all the 5 shapes? or is there a deeper theoretical aspect behind? now we are coming to the theoretical stuff where I know that there is something but I cannot visualize it....

can´t wait to try the shapes and listen to the difference to the D min shapes.....

We are not in the key of F anymore! It's now Bb
The key progression can be in two keys Bb and F
here is how to look at it:
D mi7 - Bb - Gmi - F
F major scale harmonized:
F - Gmi - Ami - Bb - C - Dmi - E dim

Bb major scale harmonized:

Bb - Cmi - Dmi - Eb - F - Gmi - Adim

G minor is VI of Bb that's why it works!


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QUOTE (Alex Feather @ Aug 26 2012, 06:32 AM) *
We are not in the key of F anymore! It's now Bb
The key progression can be in two keys Bb and F
here is how to look at it:
D mi7 - Bb - Gmi - F
F major scale harmonized:
F - Gmi - Ami - Bb - C - Dmi - E dim

Bb major scale harmonized:

Bb - Cmi - Dmi - Eb - F - Gmi - Adim

G minor is VI of Bb that's why it works!


Oh, I am stupid!
of course, G min is the minor that belongs to Bb (the VI like A minor to C)

now I get it!!!
I should have known this on my own.... dry.gif


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