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post Jan 26 2011, 07:49 PM
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I know this may seem like a silly topic to be posting about, but due to stressful days, busy schedule (exams, college etc.) I find it really hard to practice effectively or to even practice at all. I find that my stress makes me very unpatient, which is not good for things that require a lot of practicing (i.e sweeping - my no 1 enemy at the moment) On the internet, sometimes its hard to forget that beyond the forum screen names are actual people with actual goals which are obstructed by unneccesary stresses. To get to the point, I just want to pose the following question to all who may read this: how do you get into a place where you have the will and patience to practice after the stresses of everyday life?
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post Jan 26 2011, 08:02 PM
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Just pick up the guitar and play, don't think about it. The problem is you're thinking about it too much, if you have the time to play then you have nothing to worry about. Get a practice log and a timer, that way you have an objective and your practice has meaning and a short term finite goal. This is what I do and it works great for me biggrin.gif


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post Jan 26 2011, 08:18 PM
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It depends. I look at it from another point of view. I look at it as in, I have to practise something every day for a minimum ammount of time, at least I get some work done, even if it's just 30 minutes, they were good 30 minutes. Marty Friedman thaught me that.


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post Jan 26 2011, 08:57 PM
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I like to make a plan. Just make up time of the day when you are going to practice and possibly write down what you want to work on. It will be very efficient. Try to keep all the distractions away (TV, cell phone etc) and work slowly on the technique. It's very rewarding since every practice session will bring progress. Just try to relax and take it slowly. If you have a plan and good lessons to work on - then each of your practice sessions will be very effective.


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post Jan 26 2011, 09:06 PM
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Take bits and pieces of a solo that you really enjoy, and learn each part separately.

In other words bite on small chunks before attempting to eat the whole cake,

Focus this week on small chunks of sweep picking ideas. In GMC you can find many examples of this technique and you can see the instructor's hands so you can imitate them and gain the proper technique



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post Jan 26 2011, 09:20 PM
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Practice in the morning before life gets in the way. I'm up at 4:30AM (or so) so I get in a couple of hours of playing before I have to go work.


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post Jan 26 2011, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE (purple hayes @ Jan 26 2011, 09:20 PM) *
Practice in the morning before life gets in the way. I'm up at 4:30AM (or so) so I get in a couple of hours of playing before I have to go work.

you are a animal for geting up that early

my alarm goes off at 5 ,so between then and 5:30 i usually wake for practice
and now come to think of it ,try to practice before you get stressed
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post Jan 26 2011, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE (purple hayes @ Jan 26 2011, 08:20 PM) *
Practice in the morning before life gets in the way. I'm up at 4:30AM (or so) so I get in a couple of hours of playing before I have to go work.



i do pretty much the same but only in week days. most of the days i go to bed around 9-11pm then wake up around 4-5pm


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post Jan 26 2011, 10:58 PM
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This is a great question. How to you stick it out through tough practice knowing that a tough day is ahead? Makes it feel like your whole life is stuf you "have" to do instead of "want" to do.

I"ve been there. Especially during graduate school when my head was bursting from info overload.

Try this, pick up your guitar as a reward to yourself when you first get up or when you first get home from the day. Use an instinctive approach and play only what you feel like playing. If you have to force it, it's not going to be very fun. Once you play for a bit and just blow off some steam, you will feel better about everything. Life in general. I always do. At that point, you can decide whether you feel like doing some drills/sweeps etc. Usually after a short personal jam session, I've got a better outlook on everything and don't mine playing stuff that seemed tedious when I first walked in the door and picked up the guitar.

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QUOTE (Gitaerunowakai @ Jan 26 2011, 01:49 PM) *
I know this may seem like a silly topic to be posting about, but due to stressful days, busy schedule (exams, college etc.) I find it really hard to practice effectively or to even practice at all. I find that my stress makes me very unpatient, which is not good for things that require a lot of practicing (i.e sweeping - my no 1 enemy at the moment) On the internet, sometimes its hard to forget that beyond the forum screen names are actual people with actual goals which are obstructed by unneccesary stresses. To get to the point, I just want to pose the following question to all who may read this: how do you get into a place where you have the will and patience to practice after the stresses of everyday life?



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post Jan 27 2011, 07:01 PM
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Thank you guys for all the killer, helpful responses!

And as for you, purple hayes, you must have so much energy to be practicing so early. I also have the complaning neighbours to take into account! tongue.gif

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post Jan 27 2011, 07:25 PM
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If you force yourself to practice just to practice, you will be burnt out. Do it when you feel it's fun. Put goals to things to do (study this and this chapter) etc every day, and play guitar as a reward, for fun. smile.gif
About neighbours, you can always practice without amp or metronome smile.gif
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post Jan 27 2011, 08:54 PM
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I also have this problem from time to time. My head is full of school and rugby and other things...
I sit and try to play, but actually spend more time on the tv that is still on (few meters next to my computer) or posting replies on gmc ( biggrin.gif ) etc..

So, what I do now is:
I come home from school and first try to relax as much as possible. I take a coffee and start reading in Zen Guitar. This little book really motivates me! Then, when I am completely zen, I grab my guitar and only focus on the things to do. I know what I'm doing and how to improve (metronome!).

Hope this helps!

I like the idea of practicing early in the morning. The biggest problem will be the battle against my bed that wouldn't let me go biggrin.gif
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post Jan 27 2011, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE (Fre @ Jan 27 2011, 07:54 PM) *
I also have this problem from time to time. My head is full of school and rugby and other things...
I sit and try to play, but actually spend more time on the tv that is still on (few meters next to my computer) or posting replies on gmc ( biggrin.gif ) etc..

So, what I do now is:
I come home from school and first try to relax as much as possible. I take a coffee and start reading in Zen Guitar. This little book really motivates me! Then, when I am completely zen, I grab my guitar and only focus on the things to do. I know what I'm doing and how to improve (metronome!).

Hope this helps!

I like the idea of practicing early in the morning. The biggest problem will be the battle against my bed that wouldn't let me go biggrin.gif


Same too man, when I get home, my head is filled with cram revision, basketball team regional finals, family and girfriend etc. And this Zen Guitar book sounds intriguing, what is it about and where do I buy one? tongue.gif Hahaha.
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post Jan 27 2011, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE (Gitaerunowakai @ Jan 26 2011, 06:49 PM) *
I just want to pose the following question to all who may read this: how do you get into a place where you have the will and patience to practice after the stresses of everyday life?


Hmmm...sometimes I feel stress when not playing my guitar,...like being at work all day when time is going by slow, not much to do, so i have to burn up the hours, so I'll start googling guitar techniques and other things I can do when I get home - like printing out some guitar pro tabs to take home with me.

Other times though, I do get home with stress from work. Like days where I leave work, then go home and have to do more work. On days like that, I will only play the guitar if I have enough time in the day/night left. And when I do, its just me and the guitar from that point on. Whatever stress I came with, whatever work I didn't complete that night - if I'm playing guitar then those things won't bother me, cause the more important matter of me learning to play guitar is at hand.

I believe that playing guitar is a method for self-improvement. The dedication, patience, the personal nature of it, and then the knowledge gained from all that.

Anyways, what I'd like to say is, I believe we all have a personal relationship with our guitar(s), and so we wouldn't want to impede on that relationship by having stress when playing/practicing. We should want to nurture it with patience, so that it can bring enjoyment out of us, and to others who may be listening.

Its all in our head anyways - stress and all that. We stress out over situations. Nothing causes us to stress, or nothing should cause us to get unbalanced with our self (to the point where we can't even play the guitar). The guitar can be used as a tool to let that stress slip away.
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post Jan 28 2011, 03:55 PM
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I just started a company less than a year ago and am self-employed... talk about stress!

Playing guitar at night is a big stress reliever for me... but when that isn't enough I go buy a box of ammo and go to the shooting range on the weekend, put up a poster of Osama, and see how many bullets I can group on his face. Exercise also helps.

You have to find ways to relieve yourself of some stress... life is WAY too short to waste it on worrying about stuff.

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post Jan 28 2011, 06:15 PM
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QUOTE (Fre @ Jan 27 2011, 08:54 PM) *
I like the idea of practicing early in the morning. The biggest problem will be the battle against my bed that wouldn't let me go biggrin.gif


Haha, I know what you mean on that one !! wink.gif

QUOTE (Gitaerunowakai @ Jan 27 2011, 09:27 PM) *
. And this Zen Guitar book sounds intriguing, what is it about and where do I buy one? tongue.gif Hahaha.


It's by an author called Philip Toshio Sudo and you should be able to get it from Amazon. It really gets into the mind of why we play guitar and is always inspiring when you have an off day or are experiencing self doubt.

Regards your main point, the guys have already given brilliant advice ! One thing I'd add is when you do begin to change your practice approach etc, make sure you only do it gradually.. so that it's easy to achieve in small doses. This will keep you inspired and will give you a sense of satisfaction, which may not happen if you put too much on your plate to start with. Good habits take time to form so don't give yourself too much of a hard time.. it's like cleaning our teeth in the morning/night.. we don't think twice about doing it but if someone said to us 'You gotta do this task for the rest of your life' we might feel a bit daunted by such a task. The book Zen Guitar deals with this too. smile.gif


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post Jan 31 2011, 05:46 PM
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It's something that has to do with planning and time management. Pick a goal, break it to daily parts, and stick with it! Works every time wink.gif


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